<div><div dir="auto">I think so.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Caryn Ann</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That makes sense. Perhaps it is time for a policy update?<br>
<br>
In Liberty,<br>
K. Brent Olsen<br>
Alternate, Region 4<br>
<br>
On 2018-08-02 00:09, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:<br>
> Before there were electronic mail ballots, there were mail ballots --<br>
> as in USPS, snail-mail ballots. This policy was written for a<br>
> scenario when the Secretary might need to put a stamp on an envelope<br>
> and send a piece of mail to each LNC member. In that situation, the<br>
> piece of mail that was sent was not to include arguments for/against<br>
> the motion. There was nothing to preclude members from phoning each<br>
> other, or emailing each other as more LNC members got email accounts,<br>
> to argue for or against a motion.<br>
> <br>
> Whenever email ballots came along, the policy just slapped<br>
> "electronic" into the existing wording as an easy fix, though it<br>
> doesn't really have the same impact in the age of email.<br>
> <br>
> The parallel application is just that when the Secretary sends out the<br>
> email which starts the process, that email message should not contain<br>
> debate.<br>
> <br>
> -Alicia<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business<br>
> <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> I believe we may have been doing something incorrectly as per our<br>
>> special rules. Specifically:<br>
>> <br>
>> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES<br>
>> <br>
>> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots 30 Electronic mail ballots shall not<br>
>> include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the<br>
>> motion.<br>
>> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the<br>
>> Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her<br>
>> vote<br>
>> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received<br>
>> by<br>
>> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.<br>
>> <br>
>> Because when I was first elected debate was permitted in the threads<br>
>> I<br>
>> always interpreted this to mean that the ballot, i.e. the post by<br>
>> the<br>
>> Secretary, should not include any argument. But I see that in the<br>
>> past, this was not the case but was interpreted to mean no debate at<br>
>> all by anyone.<br>
>> <br>
>> I think we need clarity on this.<br>
>> <br>
>> Personally - I am opposed to not having debate on the email thread -<br>
>> I<br>
>> think it provides better results, but I think we may be violating<br>
>> our<br>
>> rules and that we either need to cease allowing debate or modify our<br>
>> Policy Manual.<br>
>> <br>
>> -Caryn Ann<br>
>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> In Liberty,<br>
>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -<br>
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.<br>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia@LP.org<br>
>> <br>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:<br>
>> We defend your rights<br>
>> And oppose the use of force<br>
>> Taxation is theft<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">-- </span><br style="font-size:small"><div style="font-size:small"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:x-small">Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a> or Secretary@LP.org.</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:x-small">Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia@LP.org</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>We defend your rights</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>And oppose the use of force</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>Taxation is theft</i></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>