<div dir='auto'>Then lets get hiring. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You'll pardon me if I don't hold my breath on it getting done in less than a month, but we can hold this in reserve if we get there and need a filler.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> I'll start calling possible candidates I know and have them send resumes.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">John Phillips<br>Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br>Cell 217-412-5973</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 5, 2019 3:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I was being facetious. It is a horrid conflict of interest.<div><br /></div><div>We should have tried harder to keep Lauren. All of this has horrid horrid optics.</div><div><br /></div><div>This is Nick's job to do the Chair's part of fundraising. Yes we can hire someone, and yes we can hire someone that is better than nothing and better than paying someone for what they are already supposed to be doing. Bottom line.</div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 2:24 PM John Phillips via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">None of which addresses anything I said honestly, and a fair amount is not relevant to our current situation.</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Here is the bare bones of it ... Are we capable of hiring someone good to replace Lauren before her last day? Someone that can jump right in without missing a beat?</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Because we are not in a position to do without for ANY amount of time and while our staff is fantastic, I don't think any of them have the time to double up on it.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">As a temporary measure Nick fits the bill, and asking someone to do that level of job with no compensation is ridiculous. </div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">If you want to be considered, have at it. All the issues that apply to Nick apply to you as well. I can't for obvious conflict of interest reasons. I am not aware of anyone else that actually HAS THE TIME, particularly for a temporary gig that would likely last a month or 2 at most.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">If we have someone to hire and hit the ground running before the end of the month, even better. </div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">The fact remains that we are not monetarily in a position to not have someone doing this job before Lauren leaves.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Maybe Alex would be a better choice if he is willing and has time with his move ... But we need someone and I don't see a line of people</div><br /><div>John Phillips<br />Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br />Cell 217-412-5973</div></div><div><br /><div>On Jul 5, 2019 2:57 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">Mr. Phillips:</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">It is far different than the Lauren situation in which she was compensated more since she does not politically benefit.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">It is easy to say critics aside but I remind you that some of those critics are on the LNC. Despite my criticisms I remain of the opinion that he is the best chair we have ever had. I may need to revise that if these useless alienation of our natural prospects continues and I have no doubt that bias would continue in fundraising. But this is ultimately about a generic chair - not Mr. Sarwark. We are all temporary.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Why not just make the chair the ED? No? Why not?</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">That had been pondered before.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">And why simply the Chair? Just throwing a name out there Mr. Smith is a proven fundraiser.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">I will never support such a scheme neither on this body or as a convention delegate. Any time I start to see a set up to give the LNC with more power or make the already tenuous balance more unequal I remember Oregon. </div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">And I absolutely deny our authority to decide this and find the promotion here ethically ambiguous as it seems to salt the soup for a future convention. There is a reason the bylaws committee is a committee of the convention and not us and we need to be careful not to unduly influence that process.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">I do quite a bit of fundraising and it will hurt my efforts when at state conventions trying to convince members that we deserve part of the competing dollars (why not just give to their state) because they will naturally think, well, why not we keep the money here and pay our Chair?</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div>Also and this is not intended to insult anyone, but while I think Mr. Sarwark is fantastic, is there any evidence he is a better fundraising than a professional fundraiser? Is there data? Is there a record of fundraising calls per month, events done, things that are already part of the job?</div><div><br /></div><div>Before your time I was doing member promos in which my airline bill ONLY was paid and a question came up about sending to me Arizona when I was still Region 1 and Arizona was part of my region. Although I was clear on keeping my presence only to member promos, I did see the optics issues and a policy was put in place that such would never happen again because it gave the appearance of compensating even expenses for a job that we were elected to do. The chair is supposed to be fundraising already. We need members - IN my spare time I do a great deal to get members and it isn't even my direct job. I am likely almost between jobs, maybe I should be a membership contractor. No? I have proven record of going above and beyond what I am already elected to do (that question is rhetorical, with the answer intended to be NO! and that same answer should apply to this question).</div></div><div><br /><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:49 PM John Phillips via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Flip side. <div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto"> Short term if we have a plan in place to move forward on a new hire it could also be a good idea, and honestly is no different than the extra money we gave Lauren for picking up extra duties temporarily.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">If we were to say set a timeline for the process, and agree that during that timeline we would contract Nick to handle the duties at an acceptable rate, AND of course he would be unable to vote on the issue, it would be a very viable option.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Critics aside, Nick is excellent one one one with people and has the experience to do it well in a time where we are in desperate need of fundraising. </div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">So as long as we set up these things in advance I find it to be an excellent idea as a short term fix.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Bonus: if he does well we may have a potential future recruit when he is no longer chair.</div></div><div><br /><div>On Jul 5, 2019 1:33 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I don't feel blindsided, nor do I think long term it is a horrendous idea.<div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">My biggest problem would be making that change mid term. </div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">To do it correctly, in my mind, it would need a delegate vote in 2020 to approve it, taking affect at the NEXT chair election.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">That would allow approval of the idea, and then allow expectations and campaigns to be mindful of the change.<br /><br /><div dir="auto">John Phillips<br />Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br />Cell 217-412-5973</div></div></div><div><br /><div>On Jul 5, 2019 1:11 PM, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">My specific intent was to NOT blindside anyone with this -- I was hoping
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this was early warning. I had been thinking about this since July 1. I will
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try think of ways to provide earlier notice of my thought process.
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<br />
I had some conversations with LPHQ staff first -- is there a precedent,
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what do we think the bylaws say, could it be effective, etc etc. Then I
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approached Nick figuring there was no point in proceeding if he was
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unwilling. Nick raised many of the objections that appear on this thread,
<br />
including some skepticism that this would pass ethical or bylaw muster. I
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convinced Nick that my job is by definition to NOT be political but instead
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present the LNC with options. I don't get to say something is ethical for
<br />
the party -- the LNC is meant to be the heart of the party.
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<br />
If the proposal dies on this thread, I am content to have presented it for
<br />
consideration. I have no ego to bruise. And although I know that as a group
<br />
we tend to be bashful and shy about presenting honest opinions, I trust
<br />
that the LNC will give me honest feedback and not worry about sparing my
<br />
feelings. ;)
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<br />
I'm not proceeding without a resolution of approval by the LNC. If is seems
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like there is enough positive interest and agreement that something like
<br />
this is allowed under the bylaws, I will ask someone one the LNC to make
<br />
such a proposal. If it dies in committee, then we won't waste any time on
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it in Austin. I will be presenting many more proposals to the LNC. I
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seriously have no vanity involved. Specifically as a Solutions Architect in
<br />
my past life, I learned to present EVERY solution I could think of to my
<br />
bosses, because often there perspective was different from mine. And often
<br />
they accepted proposals I thought were bad and rejected proposals I thought
<br />
were good because of factors outside of my silo. My job is to develop and
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implement solutions. When there is a question about an idea, I will always
<br />
bring it to the LNC.
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Dan
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:00 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
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<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> Correction: I don't agree with the implied suggestion that transparency in
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> a public list is bad for fundraising or negative. But the idea that the
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> entire LNC needs to be involved in growth and fundraising, absolutely yes.
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> Not one person can reach the needs of all. That is impossible. I can
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> think of instances where any one of us might be a better choice, due to
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> needs, geography, point of view, or intended audience.
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>
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> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:57 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>>
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> wrote:
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>
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> > Mr. Lyons, I concur with the reasoned conclusions you made at the end. I
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> > disagree highly with the characterizations of hostility where there is
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> > none, merely strong opinions. I also ask, unless you know the factors
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> for
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> > Ms. Daugherty's departure please do not use her as an example. Even if
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> you
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> > do know, it seems untoward to use her as a wedge in a political
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> > discussion. But you highlight a great reason why an exit interview is
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> > needed. Then we have facts and not conjecture.
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> >
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> > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:42 AM Jeff Lyons <<a href="mailto:jeff.lyons@lp.org">jeff.lyons@lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> >
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> Mr. Merced accurately describes the hypocrisy and hostility that makes
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> it
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> >> no small wonder why Ms. Daugherty would want to seek opportunities with
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> >> other, less erratic, employers. I can't imagine our public discussion
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> >> board is going to help attract a better candidate for the position of
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> >> Development Director.
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> >>
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> >> Mr. Fishman's proposal describes what our organization needs in a
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> >> spokesman & fundraiser but also conflicts with ethics, our By-Laws, and
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> the
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> >> capacity of our organization. I don't think the Chairman of the LNC
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> should
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> >> be paid income, regardless of the value or revenue they generate.
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> >>
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> >> However, I do believe that the Chair, or any member of the LNC, or any
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> >> member willing to perform the duties described, should be qualified to
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> >> recoup costs for pre-approved fundraising operations on a per diem
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> basis.
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> >> I think it would be a great idea if all members of the LNC participated
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> in
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> >> conversations with our major donors and helped cultivate relationships
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> that
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> >> make them feel comfortable making contributions. The LNC discussion
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> board
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> >> has the opposite effect, in my opinion.
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> >>
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> >> -Jeff Lyons
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> >> LNC 8A
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> >>
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> >> Get Outlook for Android <<a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36">https://aka.ms/ghei36</a>>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:07 AM -0500, "Caryn Ann Harlos via
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> >> Lnc-business" <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> >>
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> >> Also Mr. Merced (excuse my prior informalities) do you think the chair
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> and
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> >>> the ED did not discuss this first? Discussion to get a feel and to
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> find
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> >>> out any potential unseen issues is not anti-transparency - though I
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> would
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> >>> argue the ED and the Chair doing so without alerting the officers or
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> the EC
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> >>> must certainly is.
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> >>>
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> >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:51 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
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> >>> wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>> > Alex, because you are too nice to consider yourself blindsided. I
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> think
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> >>> > you were disrespected. But how you feel is how you feel, I know how
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> it
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> >>> > looks to me.
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> >>> >
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> >>> > No, the chair was never paid. LNC members have, in limited and
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> special
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> >>> > circumstances been paid contractors OUTSIDE OF THEIR LNC DUTIES.
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> Such as
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> >>> > ballot petitioning.
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> >>> >
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> >>> > Several Bylaws committees have discussed this issue meaning they
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> certainly
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> >>> > thought it was a bylaws, and therefore, a convention decision.
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> >>> >
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> >>> > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:44 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
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> >>> > Lnc-business wrote:
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> >>> >
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> >>> >> 1. This was not discussed with me since that was asked. I wouldn’t
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> >>> >> consider myself blindsided, the LNC list is kinda where things like
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> this
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> >>> >> are supposed to be proposed and discussed. Dan brought his idea to
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> everyone
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> >>> >> so we can discuss, there is no blindsiding. If we discuss things in
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> private
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> >>> >> channels people get upset because of transparency but if we bring
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> it up on
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> >>> >> public channels then people get upset for not being approached
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> prior. (If
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> >>> >> we wonder why so little gets discussed it may be due to the likely
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> >>> >> antagonism of bringing anything up in any channel which could also
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> just may
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> >>> >> be the matter the tone of an email can often times seem more
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> serious or
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> >>> >> combative than it probably is usually intended)
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >> 2. From a strategic point, I don’t disagree with Dan’s assessment.
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> Having
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> >>> >> a Chair that can be a more active face will allow them to do their
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> duties
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> >>> >> as Chair better and who better to build relationships with people &
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> >>> >> organizations we need to build relationships with them the Chair
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> and ED.
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> >>> >> The Chair to my understanding had been paid in the past, was this
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> changed
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> >>> >> by a delegate vote, LNC vote or at the discretion of the Chair this
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> would
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> >>> >> give me some clarity on what’s the right channel for this to move
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> through.
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >> 3. Also compensation would create an incentive to emphasize unity
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> in the
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> >>> >> party since there would be personal financial consequence to the
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> Chair if
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> >>> >> discord and fractures in the party grow.
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >> Although, the first thing would be to determine what historically
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> has
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> >>> >> been the proper channel for making this decision and discussing the
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> pros
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> >>> >> and cons.
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >> Alex Merced
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> >>> >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >> > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
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> >>> >> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> > A change of this magnitude should be decided by the delegates and
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> will
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> >>> >> not
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> >>> >> > have my support. The basic DNA of our party is grassroot
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> volunteers and
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> >>> >> our
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> >>> >> > leadership structure is designed to have a volunteer board
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> supervise and
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> >>> >> > direct paid staff. The two should not mix, especially by an LNC
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> vote. I
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> >>> >> > also have the feeling our bylaws or policy manual are designed to
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> >>> >> > discourage paid members on the LNC.
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> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> > Richard Longstreth
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> >>> >> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA,
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> WY)
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> >>> >> > Libertarian National Committee
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> >>> >> > <a href="mailto:richard.longstreth@lp.org">richard.longstreth@lp.org</a>
<br />
> >>> >> > 931.538.9300
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> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> > Sent from my Mobile Device
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> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 06:57 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
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> >>> >> > <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> >> This was sent to the LNC from Starchild, and I support what he
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> said as
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> >>> >> >> well. This would represent an internal power refocus - a
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> decision for
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> >>> >> the
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> >>> >> >> delegates. I frankly think it is as terrible as the not-heard
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> prior
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> >>> >> Bylaws
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> >>> >> >> Committee proposal to expand the LNC to over 100 persons then
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> >>> >> consolidate
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> >>> >> >> power into a small Executive Committee. I further feel there
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> has been
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> >>> >> >> already a freezing out of the rest of the LNC with the chair
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> >>> >> effectively
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> >>> >> >> treating the officers as non-officers, and the party being
<br />
> subtly ran
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> >>> >> by
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> >>> >> >> the chair, the ED (at the direction of the chair so not a
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> criticism of
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> >>> >> the
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> >>> >> >> ED), and whoever is the current LNC favourite of the chair.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> Unfair? Maybe. But I am not going to mince my words on what I
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> >>> >> perceive as
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> >>> >> >> going on.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> The fact that this was thrown on the list without the other
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> officers
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> >>> >> being
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> >>> >> >> consulted is another sign. Was Mr. Merced at least consulted?
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> Or is
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> >>> >> he as
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> >>> >> >> blind-sided as I am? What about Mr. Hagan?
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> The chair is not the sole officer as inconvenient as that may be.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> =====
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> Dear LNC members,
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> I am frankly appalled to see the message below from the new
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> executive
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> >>> >> >> director floating a major policy proposal on the LNC list, to
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> have his
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> >>> >> boss
<br />
> >>> >> >> (the chair) start being paid at party expense. With all due
<br />
> respect, I
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> >>> >> >> think the executive director is seriously overstepping his
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> bounds and
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> >>> >> has
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> >>> >> >> made a major breach of ethics.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> The chair appoints somebody to a well-paying position, and then
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> this
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> >>> >> person
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> >>> >> >> turns around and advocates that the party start to pay the
<br />
> chair? It
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> >>> >> >> doesn't take a Mueller report to see the huge conflict of
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> interest in
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> >>> >> that.
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> >>> >> >> Nor does it stop there – it would likewise be a conflict of
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> interest
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> >>> >> for
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> >>> >> >> LNC members to use party funds to start paying a professional
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> salary
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> >>> >> to a
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> >>> >> >> member of their own committee.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> But even that doesn't reflect the full extent of the problem
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> with this
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> >>> >> – I
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> >>> >> >> don't think the Libertarian National Committee even has the
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> authority
<br />
> >>> >> to
<br />
> >>> >> >> make the change he's proposing in the first place. Turning the
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> LP chair
<br />
> >>> >> >> office into a paid position is something I believe would require
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> a
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> >>> >> bylaws
<br />
> >>> >> >> change by convention delegates, and for good reason: Such a move
<br />
> would
<br />
> >>> >> be a
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> >>> >> >> significant change in party operations, a major further
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> concentration
<br />
> >>> >> and
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> >>> >> >> centralization of power at the top.
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> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> Nick Sarwark is generally doing an excellent job as chair in my
<br />
> view,
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> >>> >> and I
<br />
> >>> >> >> supported his reelection. But this is not about him – this is
<br />
> about the
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> >>> >> >> structure of the party and a proposal to alter that structure in
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> a way
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> >>> >> that
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> >>> >> >> would set a terrible precedent. What would come next, paying the
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> >>> >> Secretary,
<br />
> >>> >> >> the Treasurer, the rest of the LNC, and making them full-time
<br />
> employees
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> >>> >> >> too, putting more of our limited resources into overhead and
<br />
> attracting
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> >>> >> >> people to our party's leadership who are in it for the money or
<br />
> as a
<br />
> >>> >> career
<br />
> >>> >> >> opportunity rather than because they want to work for freedom?
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> This is the path toward taking power in the Libertarian Party
<br />
> out of
<br />
> >>> >> the
<br />
> >>> >> >> hands of grassroots activists, and putting it in the hands of
<br />
> paid
<br />
> >>> >> >> professionals. Staff members are *not* elected by our
<br />
> membership, and
<br />
> >>> >> >> really should not even be on the LNC discussion list and debating
<br />
> >>> >> policy
<br />
> >>> >> >> proposals in the first place, unless all LP members are able to
<br />
> do the
<br />
> >>> >> >> same. Paid employees are banned from being convention delegates,
<br />
> and
<br />
> >>> >> there
<br />
> >>> >> >> is a good reason for that; senior staff in particular have a
<br />
> >>> >> >> disproportionate amount of control over party operations as it
<br />
> is.
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> Having been on the LNC for two terms, I'm familiar with the
<br />
> pattern of
<br />
> >>> >> >> committee members seeking to maintain good relations with staff
<br />
> in
<br />
> >>> >> order to
<br />
> >>> >> >> have more personal influence with them and how they carry out
<br />
> party
<br />
> >>> >> >> operations on a day-to-day basis. This is in part because so much
<br />
> >>> >> power is
<br />
> >>> >> >> *already* concentrated in the position of party chair, who
<br />
> exercises
<br />
> >>> >> nearly
<br />
> >>> >> >> sole control over who is hired and who is let go, that other LNC
<br />
> >>> >> members
<br />
> >>> >> >> otherwise have little sway with staff, and consequently tend to
<br />
> be
<br />
> >>> >> careful
<br />
> >>> >> >> to preserve what influence they do have by seeking to stay on
<br />
> their
<br />
> >>> >> good
<br />
> >>> >> >> side. This is how things have gradually gotten to the point that
<br />
> >>> >> multiple
<br />
> >>> >> >> staffers are on the LNC list and increasingly feel empowered to
<br />
> inject
<br />
> >>> >> >> their personal views into LNC discussions, with the executive
<br />
> director
<br />
> >>> >> now
<br />
> >>> >> >> floating a major (and I believe improper) policy proposal.
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> I don't want to give the impression that I think this is mainly
<br />
> about
<br />
> >>> >> poor
<br />
> >>> >> >> judgement on the part of the executive director – although I do
<br />
> think
<br />
> >>> >> >> floating such a proposal shows poor judgement, he is also new in
<br />
> the
<br />
> >>> >> job.
<br />
> >>> >> >> Probably nobody told him there's anything wrong with his
<br />
> weighing in
<br />
> >>> >> like
<br />
> >>> >> >> this, and he may have seen his predecessor and other staff
<br />
> similarly
<br />
> >>> >> >> getting involved in policy matters. Likely he has a high opinion
<br />
> –
<br />
> >>> >> probably
<br />
> >>> >> >> justified – of the chair's fundraising abilities, and may have
<br />
> just
<br />
> >>> >> thought
<br />
> >>> >> >> he was offering a sensible, practical idea.
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> But there is a *lot* wrong with it. I strongly urge LNC members
<br />
> *not*
<br />
> >>> >> to go
<br />
> >>> >> >> down this path, and further to set some institutional guidance
<br />
> for
<br />
> >>> >> staff
<br />
> >>> >> >> members to limit their participation in LNC matters, for the
<br />
> good of
<br />
> >>> >> the
<br />
> >>> >> >> Libertarian Party and the need to keep it a bottom-up
<br />
> organization,
<br />
> >>> >> which
<br />
> >>> >> >> adheres to the highest ethical standards. The LP must not be
<br />
> allowed to
<br />
> >>> >> >> become another failed, top-down party like the Democrats and
<br />
> >>> >> Republicans,
<br />
> >>> >> >> run by those who are in it for the money and the power rather
<br />
> than by
<br />
> >>> >> their
<br />
> >>> >> >> grassroots members, because if that happens you can be sure it
<br />
> will
<br />
> >>> >> also
<br />
> >>> >> >> move away from being a *libertarian* party.
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> Love & Liberty,
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> ((( starchild )))
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 7:46 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
<br />
> >>> >> <a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>>
<br />
> >>> >> >> wrote:
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> I oppose. This is a decision for the delegates at convention.
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Additionally, considering the fact that right now our chair has
<br />
> been
<br />
> >>> >> >>> engaging in making enemies of particular sub-groups of
<br />
> libertarians
<br />
> >>> >> and
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Libertarians, it would be particularly galling to those
<br />
> Libertarians.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 6:00 AM Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
<br />
> >>> >> >>> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Dear LNC, As I ponder how to replace one of the best
<br />
> fundraisers I’ve
<br />
> >>> >> >> ever
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> known, It occurs to me there is a synergistic opportunity
<br />
> right now.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> I have thought for a long time that the chair of the LNC
<br />
> should be a
<br />
> >>> >> >> paid
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> position.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> There is a possibility right now to make that happen. Rather
<br />
> than
<br />
> >>> >> going
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> through a hiring process to replace a head of development, I’d
<br />
> like
<br />
> >>> >> to
<br />
> >>> >> >> put
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> the chair to work full time right now as a contractor. I
<br />
> believe a
<br />
> >>> >> paid
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> chair can focus full time on major donors and issuing press
<br />
> releases
<br />
> >>> >> --
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> two
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> things I would like to see us improve on immediately.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Lauren and I talked about the need for a paid chair a few
<br />
> weeks ago,
<br />
> >>> >> and
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> the serendipitous timing of the current Chair’s availability
<br />
> >>> >> concurrent
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> with the personnel needs of the organization leads me to
<br />
> believe the
<br />
> >>> >> >> time
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> for this proposal is now.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> I am proposing that the LNC offer the chair a contract to
<br />
> become a
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> contractor of the LNC. In return for this the chair would
<br />
> undertake
<br />
> >>> >> the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> duties of major donor maintenance and recruitment, public
<br />
> appearances
<br />
> >>> >> >> and
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> press secretary as required.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> By making this a contract position, the LNC can terminate the
<br />
> >>> >> contract
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> with
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> 30 days notice if there is no longer an organizational need.
<br />
> This
<br />
> >>> >> also
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> doesn't change the nature of the position for future chairs,
<br />
> which
<br />
> >>> >> would
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> probably need to be done as a change to the bylaws.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> The positives are immediately apparent. A chair who can focus
<br />
> on the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> business of the party, fundraising and appearances, is
<br />
> critical to a
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> professional and consistent message. A chair who can support
<br />
> the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> affiliates through meetings and advise is a chair who is
<br />
> growing the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> party.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> And a chair who is able to focus 100% of their professional
<br />
> effort to
<br />
> >>> >> >> the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> job is an asset to the party.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Recognizing the role the chair has in the appointment of the
<br />
> >>> >> Executive
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Director I hesitated to make the case -- but this is such a
<br />
> unique
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> confluence of events, I wanted to at least present the LNC
<br />
> with the
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> opportunity for you all to give it thumbs up or down.
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> ---
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Daniel Fishman
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Executive Director
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> The Libertarian Party
<br />
> >>> >> >>>> Join Us
<br />
> >>> >> >>>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> --
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> * In Liberty,*
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
<br />
> *-
<br />
> >>> >> >> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> >>> >> >>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
<br />
> >>> >> >>> <a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
<br />
> Re-Legalize
<br />
> >>> >> >> All
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
<br />
> Gun Laws
<br />
> >>> >> *
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
<br />
> Fed *
<br />
> >>> >> End
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
<br />
> Income
<br />
> >>> >> >> Tax
<br />
> >>> >> >>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
<br />
> Emergency
<br />
> >>> >> >> Services
<br />
> >>> >> >>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
<br />
> Sector *
<br />
> >>> >> >>> Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> <
<br />
> >>> >> >> <a href="http://www.lp.org/">http://www.lp.org/</a>>*
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> >> >>>
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> --
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> * In Liberty,*
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
<br />
> *-
<br />
> >>> >> >> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> >>> >> >> Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> >>> >> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> >>> >> >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
<br />
> >>> >> >> <a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> >> >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
<br />
> Re-Legalize
<br />
> >>> >> All
<br />
> >>> >> >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
<br />
> Laws *
<br />
> >>> >> >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
<br />
> Fed * End
<br />
> >>> >> >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
<br />
> Income
<br />
> >>> >> Tax
<br />
> >>> >> >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
<br />
> >>> >> Services
<br />
> >>> >> >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
<br />
> Sector *
<br />
> >>> >> >> Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >> >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> <
<br />
> >>> >> <a href="http://www.lp.org/">http://www.lp.org/</a>
<br />
> >>> >> >>> *
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> >> >>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> >>> >>
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>> > --
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>> > * In Liberty,*
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
<br />
> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> >>> > Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> >>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> >>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
<br />
> >>> > <a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
<br />
> Re-Legalize All
<br />
> >>> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
<br />
> Laws *
<br />
> >>> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
<br />
> End
<br />
> >>> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
<br />
> Income Tax
<br />
> >>> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
<br />
> Services
<br />
> >>> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector
<br />
> *
<br />
> >>> > Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> *
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> >
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>> --
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>> * In Liberty,*
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
<br />
> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> >>> Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> >>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> >>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
<br />
> <a href="http://atfacebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">atfacebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
<br />
> All
<br />
> >>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
<br />
> >>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
<br />
> >>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
<br />
> Tax
<br />
> >>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
<br />
> Services
<br />
> >>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
<br />
> >>> Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> *
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >>>
<br />
> >
<br />
> > --
<br />
> >
<br />
> > * In Liberty,*
<br />
> >
<br />
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
<br />
> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> > Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
<br />
> > <a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
> >
<br />
> > =========================================================================
<br />
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
<br />
> All
<br />
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
<br />
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
<br />
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
<br />
> Tax
<br />
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
<br />
> Services
<br />
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
<br />
> > Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
> >
<br />
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> <
<br />
> <a href="http://www.lp.org/">http://www.lp.org/</a>>*
<br />
> > =========================================================================
<br />
> >
<br />
>
<br />
>
<br />
> --
<br />
>
<br />
> * In Liberty,*
<br />
>
<br />
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
<br />
> Caryn.Ann.
<br />
> Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia@LP.org
<br />
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
<br />
> <a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a>
<br />
>
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
<br />
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
<br />
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
<br />
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
<br />
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
<br />
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
<br />
> Eliminate Regulation *
<br />
>
<br />
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or <a href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a> <<a href="http://www.lp.org/">http://www.lp.org/</a>
<br />
> >*
<br />
> =========================================================================
<br />
>
<br />
</p>
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</blockquote></div><br /></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all" /><div><br /></div>-- <br /><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:small;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br /></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b> In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><b>Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary </b>- <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" style="color:rgb( 17 , 85 , 204 )">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a> or Secretary@LP.org.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><b>Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</b> - LPedia@LP.org</span><br /></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at </span><font size="1"><a href="http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/">facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/</a></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><br /></div><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div style="text-align:center;letter-spacing:normal"><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" size="1">=========================================================================</font></div><div style="letter-spacing:normal"><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" size="1">Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * </font></div><div style="letter-spacing:normal"><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" size="1"><br /></font></div><div style="letter-spacing:normal"><div style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-family:'arial narrow' , sans-serif;font-size:x-small">VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or </span><a href="http://www.lp.org/" style="font-family:'arial narrow' , sans-serif;font-size:x-small;color:rgb( 17 , 85 , 204 )">http://www.LP.org</a></b></div><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" size="1"><div style="text-align:center;color:rgb( 17 , 85 , 204 )"><span style="color:rgb( 34 , 34 , 34 )">=========================================================================</span></div></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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