<div dir='auto'>I would very much like to get back to the topic of this discussion and perhaps handle personal disagreements in another email chain. <div dir="auto">The personal back and forth above distracts from the very serious issue at hand imo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 28, 2019 3:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Take it to the proper channels. Thank you.
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn@lp.org>
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> I thought you were going to stop replying to me? : )
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> Elizabeth Van Horn
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> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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> On 2019-10-28 03:53, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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> Take it to the proper channels. Thank you.
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> *In Liberty,*
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> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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>> Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome. Please
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>> stop. Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish. After our
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>> conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated
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>> it again. I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by
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>> Mr. Hall. Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on
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>> maligning a disability. If you wish to continue this conversation, take it
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>> to the proper channels. You are dangerously out of line.
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>> *In Liberty,*
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>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
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>>> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message. I replied
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>>> with a link to information. (which you rejected) I also explained about
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>>> my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum
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>>> Disorder. My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.
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>>> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults. I then
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>>> notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal
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>>> complaint. That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware. I've showed
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>>> no-one our communication. But, I'd be happy to.
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>>> You accuse others of your own behavior. Thank you for illustrating that
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>>> behavior.
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>>> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself.
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>>> I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.
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>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
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>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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>>> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>>> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself. You and I already had a private
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>>> conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain
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>>> terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.
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>>> I'm not interested in your policing. You have been told over the years
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>>> that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.
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>>> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you
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>>> to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent. I will not respond
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>>> further to your faux outrage.
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>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
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>>>> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow
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>>>> LNC members. You're the person who has as a signature line:
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>>>> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
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>>>> other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know.
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>>>> *"
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>>>> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're
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>>>> publicly being rude.
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>>>> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.
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>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
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>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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>>>> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>>>> Not interested in your policing.
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>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
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>>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>>>> (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
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>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
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>>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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>>>>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
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>>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
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>>>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
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>>>>> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
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>>>>> > IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
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>>>>> > But, you went way beyond that.
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>>>>> > You wrote:
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>>>>> > "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region. Have you discussed this seeming
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>>>>> > approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your
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>>>>> > --> [Ok, so far. Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
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>>>>> > her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see
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>>>>> > she brings to the table." AFTER asking the same type of question
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>>>>> > you'd asked. She wasn't out of line at all.]
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>>>>> > "I doubt it."
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>>>>> > --> [Uncalled.]
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>>>>> > You wrote:
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>>>>> > "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members
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>>>>> > outside
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>>>>> > this list for resolution. Combine that with this, and silence or
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>>>>> > speaks volume."
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>>>>> > --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment. She made an innocuous
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>>>>> > comment.]
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>>>>> > "I've not said a word outside us. I've not said a word on social
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>>>>> > Clean your house."
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>>>>> > --> [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
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>>>>> > Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
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>>>>> > list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you. IF
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>>>>> > you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly. Your
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>>>>> > reply to Paige Sexton was rude. If multiple people are telling you
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>>>>> > this, perhaps you might consider listening.
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>>>>> > ---
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>>>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
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>>>>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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>>>>> > Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
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>>>>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
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>>>>> > On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
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>>>>> >> Asking a question is not rude. The holy hall monitor routine is
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>>>>> old.
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>>>>> >> We
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>>>>> >> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
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>>>>> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
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>>>>> >> <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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>>>>> >>> Our feelings were clear. I guess we can't now rely on good faith
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>>>>> >>> What a joke.
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>>>>> >>> STRONG OBJECTION was made. The fact that this was done without
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>>>>> >>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona
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>>>>> >>> disturbing.
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>>>>> >>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
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>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
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>>>>> >>> <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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>>>>> >>> wrote:
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>>>>> >>>> I'd like to see that as well.
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>>>>> >>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date
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>>>>> >>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
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>>>>> >>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
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>>>>> >>>> Welcome to the new party. The same as the old parties.
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>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
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>>>>> Lnc-business
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>>>>> >>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>>>> >>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought
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>>>>> >>>>> referred to the offer letter.
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>>>>> >>>>> JBH
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>>>>> >>>>> ------------
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>>>>> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
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>>>>> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
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>>>>> >>>>> joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org
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>>>>> >>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
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>>>>> >>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
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>>>>> >>>>> > On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
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>>>>> >>>>> >
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>>>>> >>>>> >> It was not a formal directive. I will get the video. Our
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>>>>> feelings
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>>>>> >>>>> >> were
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>>>>> >>>>> >> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
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>>>>> >>>>> >
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>>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
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>>>>> >>>>> >
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>>>>> >>>>> >> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider
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>>>>> with not
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>>>>> >>>>> >> much
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>>>>> >>>>> >> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is
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>>>>> connected to
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>>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
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>>>>> >>>>> >> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
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>>>>> >>>>> promises
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>>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
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>>>>> >>>>> >> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any
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>>>>> LNC
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>>>>> >>>>> >> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
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>>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
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>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>> >>>> *In Liberty,*
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>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>> >>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
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>>>>> >>>> Syndrome
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>>>>> >>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>>>>> >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
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>>>>> >>>> anyone
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>>>>> >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
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>>>>> social
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>>>>> >>>> faux
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>>>>> >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>> >>>> --
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
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>>>>> >>> Syndrome
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>>>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>>>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
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>>>>> >>> anyone
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>>>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
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>>>>> social
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>>>>> >>> faux
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>>>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> --
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>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >> *In Liberty,*
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>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
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>>>>> Syndrome
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>>>>> >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>>>>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
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>>>>> >> anyone
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>>>>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
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>>>>> social
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>>>>> >> faux
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>>>>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>>>
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>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>>> *In Liberty,*
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>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> --
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>>>
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>>> *In Liberty,*
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>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> --
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*In Liberty,*
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* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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(part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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