<div dir='auto'>I would oppose a meeting per the proposed motion because we still won't have any word from Austin about theis restrictions. I suggest the LNC relax and let the COC do our job.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sam Goldstein</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 28, 2020 12:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am seeing the first motion as a bit too strong of an approach over the CoC. It makes me uncomfortable TBH. The second I would support without issue.<br clear="all" /><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"> </b></div><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large">In Liberty,</b><br /></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><i style="font-size:small"><font size="1"><b> Personal Note: </b> I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. </font></i><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="text-align:center"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:51 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex">John, <br />
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The COC has considered and has done some work on most of those options. <br />
The motion calls for "practical plan" for all the options to be<br />
submitted by mid-April, a point in time when we will not even know if<br />
the Austin distancing rules will be extended, modified or will expire. <br />
There is no sense in developing detailed plans for multiple scenarios in<br />
a situation which can change drastically overnight. <br />
<br />
---<br />
Sam Goldstein, At Large Member<br />
Libertarian National Committee<br />
317-850-0726 Cell <br />
<br />
On 2020-03-28 09:09, <a href="mailto:john.phillips@lp.org">john.phillips@lp.org</a> wrote:<br />
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> Sam, <br />
> <br />
> I understand your point, and am not meaning this as an attack on you or anyone, but we were given the impression (not by you) that much of that work had already been done, which is one of the reasons I was willing to agree to it. Was that not accurate? <br />
> <br />
> If it is not accurate, then we have a bigger problem. As if there is not time to get that done between now and the 20th or 27th (at least in a short skeleton form which is all that could be asked for) when we said we would make a decision, then 1) an informed decision becomes problematic and 2) it will be harder to have a fully fleshed out plan in a couple weeks after that. <br />
> <br />
> As such I suggest a modification. Perhaps divide and conquer. Bylaws committee to delve in and verify what can be done, and what changes would need to be made if we do have to have the small group in Austin. IT to investigate online alternatives, etc. <br />
> <br />
> I don't believe any of us want to dump a pile of work on the CoC, but at least the preliminary work absolutely needs to be done, perhaps by all of us instead. I for one will be happy to jump in and help where needed. <br />
> <br />
> I view this as important enough I would even agree to redirect some funds in the budget to help get it addressed, and if we approved such action pledge a significant portion of my "stimulus" check to it.<br />
> <br />
> John Phillips<br />
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br />
> Cell 217-412-5973 <br />
> <br />
> On Mar 28, 2020 7:37 AM, "sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business" <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br />
> <br />
> As a member of the COC I would oppose the first motion and would resign from the Committee if it passes. There is no way all tha twork can be done in a few weeks. <br />
> <br />
> Sam Goldstein <br />
> <br />
> On Mar 28, 2020 1:44 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br />
> <br />
> Has the convention committee been consulted on this? While I think the LNC <br />
> needs to be more proactive (thus my insistence on the last meeting), we <br />
> need to respect the collective work and wisdom already done by the CoC. <br />
> <br />
> Too many cooks can spoil the stew. <br />
> <br />
> *In Liberty,* <br />
> <br />
> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome <br />
> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal <br />
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone <br />
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux <br />
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * <br />
> <br />
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:01 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < <br />
> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote: <br />
> <br />
>> I would like to see a timeline for those plans to be presented to us. <br />
>> Preferably at least 5 days prior to the meeting. <br />
>> <br />
>> Also wasn't 3 weeks discussed? That would be the 27th - not an objection, <br />
>> just an observation. I am ok with 4. <br />
>> <br />
>> John Phillips <br />
>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative <br />
>> Cell 217-412-5973 <br />
>> <br />
>> On Mar 27, 2020 10:39 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business < <br />
>> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote: <br />
>> <br />
>> Colleagues, <br />
>> <br />
>> I have two proposals I am seeking co-sponsors for. I believe they would <br />
>> implement and set timelines on the discussion from our recent e-meeting <br />
>> discussing the convention. <br />
>> <br />
>> Proposal 1: <br />
>> The Libertarian National Committee directs the Chair and the Convention <br />
>> Oversight Committee to prepare by mid-April practical plans to implement <br />
>> the following contingent possibilities for our 2020 National Convention: <br />
>> A. Everyone packed in Austin <br />
>> B. Everyone 6 feet apart in Austin, either hotel or convention center <br />
>> C. In-person for who can be there and special accommodations for those <br />
>> who can't travel <br />
>> D. Move to an outdoor space <br />
>> E. Rump convention to approve rules allowing online/other convention <br />
>> F. State remote satellite locations <br />
>> G. 1046 person online convention <br />
>> H. Relocate <br />
>> I. Reschedule <br />
>> J. No convention. LNC picks nominee, through some process to ratify an <br />
>> electronic selection by delegates <br />
>> <br />
>> Proposal 2: <br />
>> The Libertarian National Committee hold an electronic meeting on Monday, <br />
>> April 20, 2020 at 9:00 PM Eastern to decide whether and how to proceed <br />
>> with our 2020 National Convention. <br />
>> <br />
>> JBH <br />
>> <br />
>> ------------ <br />
>> Joe Bishop-Henchman <br />
>> LNC Member (At-Large) <br />
>> <a href="mailto:joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org">joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org</a> <br />
>> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837">www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837</a> <br />
>> <br />
>> <br />
>><br />
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