<div dir='auto'>Understood. Thank you :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 4, 2020 1:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Because of scattered phone calls and the like. A proposed motion will be on the list soon. Nothing nefarious just the nature of people talking in various venues and finally coming together. And I wanted to feel out if there was support. If not, I have a family to attend to rather than waste time on a futile task. I am convinced there is support. But my line in the sand is the bylaws. I will not cross it. The only item for which the emergency provision can be invoked to override the bylaws is the P/VP nomination,. I am willing to support carving out an exception for that and for that alone. I will not violate our bylaws by doing so for other things for which there is no such emergency.<br clear="all" /><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"> </b></div><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large">In Liberty,</b><br /></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><i style="font-size:small"><font size="1"><b> Personal Note: </b> I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. </font></i><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="text-align:center"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:27 AM <<a href="mailto:dustin.nanna@lp.org">dustin.nanna@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Also why is the proposal off the list? I think now more than ever we need to be putting everything on the business list. (Totally not accusing anyone of anything I just want our members to have faith in us)</div><div><br /><div class="elided-text">On May 4, 2020 1:25 PM, <a href="mailto:dustin.nanna@lp.org">dustin.nanna@lp.org</a> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I'm actually not sure I'd be willing to support a postponement that doesn't also allow remote participation but I could be swayed if that's what the delegation wants.</div><div><br /><div>On May 4, 2020 1:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Tim and Dustin, there is a majority of LNC members now who are willing to
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sign on to a different compromise. An all online P/VP election very soon
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and an in person convention for everything else in July/august with no
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hybrid option. This way everyone gets something of what they want. I am
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willing to sign off on that.
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I hope you will too Tim.
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*In Liberty,*
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* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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(part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:51 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
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<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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> According to Rule 3 of the Convention Special Rules of Order, delegates
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> can be polled individually if a state's vote report is challenged, and
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> they must sign computer readable ballots if they're used. There's no
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> I listened in on the Bylaws Committee meeting yesterday. They worked on
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> an amendment that would allow a hybrid convention. I'd fully support
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> what they had at the end of their meeting, and it's very similar to your
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> idea. Of course, It would need to be passed by the in-person attendees
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> Tim Hagan
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> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
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> On 2020-05-04 09:34, dustin.nanna--- via Lnc-business wrote:
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> > Attached is a rough idea that I had that might satisfy both sides of the
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> issue. It was relatively popular with Ohio folks
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> > I want to get your guys' thoughts on a hybrid convention. Here's how it
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> > As many delegates as possible/want to would meet at a time and place
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> best suited and ASAP. They would then authorize emergency bylaws allowing
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> remote voting for those with health concerns, compromised family, etc. Each
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> delegation chair would make the decision on who would meet the criteria and
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> the delegation chair would need to be on site at the physical portion of
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> convention. Those voting remote could only vote on things that aren't
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> voice. (Such as President, VC, LNC officers and at large, and JC) and would
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> do so by email ballot (my only concern here is no secret ballot). The state
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> chairs would then tabulate the combined votes and send them to the on site
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> secretary as usual.
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