<div dir='auto'>http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/oklahoma-disqualifies-Americans-Elect.pdf<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Justin O'Donnell<br>LNC Region 8 Representative</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 14, 2020 2:12 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Didn't Americans Elect lose a lawsuit in Oklahoma in 2012 that said the National party controlled the ballot line for president and not the state party? Rex Lawhorm should remember that precedent as he was the one who tried to nominate Gary Johnson on the ballot for his party at the time before joining the LP.<br /><br /><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Justin O'Donnell<br />LNC Region 8 Representative</div></div><div><br /><div class="elided-text">On May 14, 2020 1:55 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Listen to Oklahoma. They are dead right. And I remind everyone it is not
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us waffling - A DECISION WAS MADE ON MAY 2. It should have been over and
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done with THEN. In order to try to make everyone happy a compromise was
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worked on, and then not honoured by our chair. I am not going to lose a
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minute of sleep of trying to stop the LNC from being played like a fiddle
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and neither should you.
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*In Liberty,*
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* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:51 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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wrote:
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> I believe in a compromise. I have floated an alternate compromise. But I
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> concur with Mr. Smith. I am voting yes. If it is defeated, I will do my
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> damnest to make the online thinking work, but I can do nothing about the
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> flaws. And it has been made clear to me that the chair is doing nothing to
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> set me up for success in my role in that activity. I will make the best
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> our of a bad situation for this party and its members no matter what. I am
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> not entirely at peace with a yes vote on this without the other motion
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> being passed but I am less at peace with pretending this online fiasco is a
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> deliberative assembly.
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> In any event, I will accept our decision and will not undermine or perform
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> subterfuge. This motion is the right way to challenge decisions. Not
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> social media scheming. We need to preserve ballot access for GA and NH but
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> why hasn't the chair authorized litigation there? WHY?????? I urge us
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> also to take the ball into our own hands and authorize that litigation.
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> And to authorize the signing of the contract by any officer. We have
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> allowed these games to be played for too long.
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> *In Liberty,*
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>
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> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:38 PM joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business <
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> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> I'm an LNC member. I'm a current candidate for Chair of the LNC. I'm a
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>> delegate to the national convention for California.
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>> I didn't even recieve an email for this "test" convention. I wasn't able
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>> to log in. Many other people have said the same. Zoom has a cap at 1k, and
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>> we have 1046 delegates. People are not able to speak when they want to. It
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>> is fraught with tech issues.
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>> This is not going to work, and with only ten days left, it's time to
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>> admit that to ourselves and come up with something different.
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>> For those reasons, I vote yes on this motion.
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>> In liberty,
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>> Joshua
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>> On May 13, 2020 11:59 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
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>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> Justin,
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>> As Caryn Ann has already noted, this is not a motion to "reconsider" but
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>> instead a motion to "rescind" which has no constraints on who can move
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>> it.
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>> If it were a motion to reconsider, there is only an eligibility
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>> for the mover but not for the seconds, RONR p. 320:
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>> "Must be seconded at the time it is made. Unlike the making of the
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>> motion,
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>> which must be done by a person who voted with the prevailing side, the
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>> seconding can be done by any member regardless of how he voted on the
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>> motion to be reconsidered."
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>> -Alicia
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>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:38 PM justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business <
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>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> > I OBJECT
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>> > I oppose this ballot being started prior to a ruling of the chair on my
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>> > objection that it was not properly sponsored.
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>> > Justin O'Donnell
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>> > LNC Region 8 Representative
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>> > On May 14, 2020 12:36 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
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>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
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>> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 20 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
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>> > Pacific time.
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>> > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Hewitt, Mattson, Smith
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>> > Motion: Rescind in its entirety the motion adopted during the May 9,
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>> 2020
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>> > LNC
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>> > meeting, which called for a convention to begin on May 22, 2020 with
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>> > business conducted online. Instead, in accordance with Bylaw Article
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>> > 10.1,
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>> > the LNC calls an in-person convention to occur during the dates of July
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>> > 8-12, 2020 at Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Florida.
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>> > THRESHOLD REQUIRED:
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>> > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
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>> > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200513-1. Votes are noted with a link to
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>> the
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>> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
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>> manual
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>> > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
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>> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
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>> > * In Liberty,*
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>> > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>> > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
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>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
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>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
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>> faux
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>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
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>> *
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