<div dir='auto'>I believe they are simply referring to swapping in alternates for delegates who will not be participating. As far as I know this is commonly done even well into convention. For example I know at least one delegate that asked to withdraw and seat an alternate in their place.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">John Phillips<br>Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br>Cell 217-412-5973</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 21, 2020 1:12 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I also wanted to tack Bylaw Article 10.4.e onto my email, which is about
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how list changes are handled after the final Credentials Committee meeting:
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"By seven-eighths vote, the Convention may approve additional delegates and
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alternates whose names and addresses are submitted to the Credentials
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Committee during the Convention."
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-Alicia
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On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:08 AM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org>
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> I am confused about how some delegations are making changes to their lists
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> at this point. We were told that the final Credentials Committee meeting
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> prior to this weekend's event was on Sunday afternoon.
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> Bylaw Article 10.4.c: " A list of the names and addresses of all
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> delegates and alternates chosen by each affiliate party shall be sent to
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> the Credentials Committee no later than one month prior to start of the
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> first general session of the Regular Convention. Amendments to such lists
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> may be made by the affiliate parties and submitted to the Credentials
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> Committee until the close of the Credentials Committee meeting preceding
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> the Convention."
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> Since that meeting has passed, affiliates should not be making changes to
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> their lists. Updating email addresses and phone numbers is one thing, but
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> changing who is on the lists is another.
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> The chair has said we're going to try to follow our bylaws and rules as
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> closely as possible for this weekend's event, but that's just what is said,
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> not what is actually done. It's clear to many of us that the voluntarily
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> agreed to rules we have adopted for ourselves will be bulldozed.
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> -Alicia
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> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:26 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
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> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> Right, I think "whittle down" was the flashpoint, everyone appreciates
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>> the practice sessions and the effort to make this work
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>> JBH
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>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
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>> LNC Member (At-Large)
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>> joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org
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>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
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>>
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>> On 2020-05-21 13:22, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
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>> > Dan Fishman,
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>> >
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>> > Thank you for replying.
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>> > This language: "I'm sending a list to all the state chairs of the
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>> > delegates and alternates who aren't attending any of the practice
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>> > sessions so they can whittle down their final delegate lists." Is
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>> > wrong.
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>> > Nor, does that say "the spreadsheet makes delegation chairs aware and
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>> > allows the delegation chair to contact their group."
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>> > Which you could have said. The difference isn't an inartful phrasing,
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>> > but two different meanings.
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>> > I also got a message last night from a different Region 3 delegate, who
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>> > said, and they quoted you:
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>> > --------
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>> > 'Fishman just mentioned to an alternate that chairs are "aggressively
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>> > kicking people out" and it's possible she'd be promoted to delegate
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>> > In the training I'm in.'
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>> > -----------
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>> > So, what I'm getting is delegates complaining that the LP national ED
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>> > is
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>> > saying, or implying, that delegates are going to be, or are being,
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>> > 'whittled' or 'kicked' from their delegate spots. This is not a good
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>> > look for LP national. We work for the delegates. Not the other way
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>> > around. I know you're helping the delegates, and that work is much
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>> > appreciated. The LP should've gone with some professional company,
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>> > instead of this DYI on Zoom. I understand that you have your hands
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>> > full
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>> > in an effort to make it work. I understand that you'll, "try to choose
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>> > words less ambiguously" in the future regarding our delegates.
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>> > Regards,
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>> > EVH
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>> > ---
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>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
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>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
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>> > On 2020-05-21 12:28, Daniel Fishman wrote:
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>> >> I regret any confusion. The list is compiled based on the list of
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>> >> delegates and alternates and then removing the people who have signed
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>> >> into a zoom training session.
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>> >> Prior to that email we were under 35% attendance. It is true that
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>> >> people who attend with a different email address than the one we send
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>> >> the zoom got this email -- hence my statement "no one with this email
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>> >> address...." It's also true that many people are unaware when they
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>> >> sign into zoom with their work email.
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>> >> I absolutely want people to attend at least one practice session.
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>> >> Having done hundreds of tech rollouts, customer training is the
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>> >> critical aspect in determining success. I provided the spreadsheet,
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>> >> broken up by state, to all the state chairs so they could contact only
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>> >> those we saw at risk as having not been to a training and encourage
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>> >> them to get training. My comment at the end, perhaps inartfully
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>> >> phrased, was meant to indicate that that the spreadsheet makes
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>> >> delegation chairs aware and allows the delegation chair to contact
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>> >> their group.
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>> >> I am doing everything I can to ensure success of the convention, and
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>> >> the fewer people we have who are logging into zoom for the very first
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>> >> time on Friday, the more successful we will be.
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>> >> Obviously the lists are controlled by the delegation chairs, and I
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>> >> certainly regret that people felt threatened. I am operating at
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>> >> breakneck speed, and assumed everyone understood that only states and
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>> >> delegation chairs control the lists. I will try to choose words less
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>> >> ambiguously.
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>> >> Please encourage everyone who hasn't been to a zoom training yet to
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>> >> get to the one this afternoon.
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>> >>
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>> >> ---
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>> >> Daniel Fishman
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>> >> Executive Director
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>> >> The Libertarian Party
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>> >> Join Us [1]
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