<div dir='auto'><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">I appreciate your reaching out Bette Rose. However the chair has been ... uncommunicative lately. As such that option is not a good one for us.</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">However, as you point out several members of the COC are on the LNC and when their reports are all the same but do not match up with Mr Sarwark's second hand reports we have questions that need to be resolved, and that difficulty also makes going through the chair not a good option.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">I know you not at all, but part of the job of chairing a committee is answering questions about that committee, and particularly when it directly involves your actions. If this is not something you are comfortable with, perhaps accepting the position was not the right answer for you. I mean that in a friendly fashion, not judgementally, as I am sure you work very hard on the COC, and I have frequently admitted that chairing anything is not for me as well.</div><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">John Phillips<br>Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br>Cell 217-412-5973</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 4, 2020 6:51 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Nope, in a room arranged by Ms. Ryan since Mr. Hayes had been fired as
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Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
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On 2020-06-04 19:47, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
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> Was this meeting done in Mr Hayes’ zoom room?
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:27 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
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>> I agree with Mr. Goldstein that Ms. Ryan's recollection is inaccurate.
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>> I
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>> Ms. Ryan: The last order of business is something I didn’t want to
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>> bring
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>> up, but I’ve been painted into a corner by the chair. He has
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>> that we send him our recommendation for the seat that’s on the COC.
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>> If you
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>> feel the seat is not available, I urge you to abstain from the vote.
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>> So,
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>> any…?
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>> COC member: Why don’t we take a consensus here of who thinks that the
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>> Ms. Ryan: It doesn’t matter. I have to do this. This is my order
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>> from
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>> the chair.
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>> [...]
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>> Me: The chair can’t give you orders like that. This is under…
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>> Ms. Ryan: I work at the pleasure of the chair.
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>> [...discussion of whether there is a vacancy, the ongoing LNC email
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>> ballots, and our desire to wait for email ballot results...]
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>> Me: So to deal with the agenda item, I’ll move to postpone it to next
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>> week
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>> so we can see how the email ballots play out.
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>> Ms. Ryan: I’m not going to do that. I’ve been ordered. I will pass
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>> Me: Nick can’t order me not to postpone.
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>> -Alicia
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>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:01 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
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>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> > Dear All,
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>> > Apparently the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee responded to a
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>> > number of LNC members about representations that were made by certain LNC
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>> > members. Ms. Ryan had requested that her response be shared with the
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>> > business list, but her Regional Representative did not do so.
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>> > Her response is below:
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>> > “Can you post this for me? If there are things in it that you feel
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>> > shouldn't be on the thread, go ahead and remove it - that is except for
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>> the
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>> > first sentence. Robert sent me a note asking about this same issue but I
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>> > think may answer didn't fit the narrative as I didn't see it post. The
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>> > committee refuses to recommend someone, even Daniel because that will
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>> > there is a vacancy. I need to get back to work but thank you for
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>> > everything.
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>> > I, Ms. Ryan was never bullied by the Chairman. He asked me to call for a
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>> > vote last weekend but the committee had other things on our plate. I
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>> > brought it up as the last order of business and said Mr. Sarwark would
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>> > a vote of the committee. I did say I serve at the pleasure of the Chair
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>> > because I do.
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>> > Someone motioned that we table the question although there was no motion
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>> > made to table. Besides we rule by consensus. rarely taking a "vote". I
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>> > said I was fine telling the Chairman that there was no recommendation
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>> > the committee at this time.
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>> > I do feel the Chairman was correct in his request and his reading of the
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>> > policy manual. The Chairman has the right to unilaterally seat and
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>> > therefore the right to remove the non-LNC members of the committee.
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>> > Therefore there is a vacancy on the committee, which the members of the
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>> > committee refused to accept.
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>> > Changing the policy manual is up to the LNC but I caution doing that in
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>> > heat of a controversy.”
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>> > ***
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>> > Yours in liberty,
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