<div dir='auto'>I understand following the will of the delegates. I agree.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will point out though that that will expressed in the vote to adjourn also included language that allowed for us to make a change if necessary.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So the gist to me is they said "we want to do it there and then, unless crap happens, at which point we need the LNC to make a call."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As such, I ask again for the chair to please vote on the motion so we can do as the delegates asked.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">John Phillips<br>Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br>Cell 217-412-5973</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2020 12:02 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am appalled that some of my colleagues are taking the position of default that we cancel unless it can be proven the delegates still want it. That is a load of paternalistic garbage. The default should be that the delegates meant what they said. We have lost our way and our principles. <div><br /></div><div>We are a bottom up organization. With all due respect to state chairs, no poll of them can override delegates either. They are not kings any more than we are.</div><div><br /></div><div>The delegates decided. It is less than a week. I am finding the former criticisms of our chair hypocritical on the part of some. At least he only defied the LNC. The LNC is trying to defy the delegates.<br clear="all" /><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"> </b></div><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large">In Liberty,</b><br /></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><i style="font-size:small"><font size="1"><b> Personal Note: </b> I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. </font></i><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="text-align:center"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /></div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:10 PM <<a href="mailto:john.phillips@lp.org">john.phillips@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Silly people. I agree with you 1000%.<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br /><div dir="auto">John Phillips<br />Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br />Cell 217-412-5973</div></div></div></div></div><div><br /><div class="elided-text">On Jun 30, 2020 11:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is the paragraph I endorse absent a clear poll from the delegates who gave us our marching orders that they are rescinding them.<div><br /></div><div>====</div><div>I trust that the Convention Oversight Committee will ensure that all the<br />events are a success, that the LNC will vote to support the bylaws proposal<br />for full online participation for any delegates who wish to participate<br />remotely for whatever reason, and that the LNC will meet to make a pro<br />forma change to the location to be the Rosen Center. I trust that everyone<br />will work together to make sure that the party upholds its commitments and<br />works with our counterparty to fulfill our contract. I trust that people<br />will stop fighting about whether the convention will be a success, and<br />start working to make sure it is a success.</div><div>===</div><div><br /></div><div><br clear="all" /><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"> </b></div><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large">In Liberty,</b><br /></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><i style="font-size:small"><font size="1"><b> Personal Note: </b> I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. </font></i><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="text-align:center"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /></div></div><br /><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Okay. I have gotten more messages about being the chair cat's paw.<div><br /></div><div>I am not stupid. I know what he said in his video and what multiple people took from what he said in his video.</div><div><br /></div><div>This is NOT really about the delegates. Up until this happened our chair was constantly undermining an in-person convention. This is an about face without saying he changed his mind.</div><div><br /></div><div>He openly said why he is making this move. He has his heart set on carrying out threats to denounce his political enemies from the floor. That is why he is refusing to chair. I trust our delegates to see that for the petty move it would be just as they saw through the tantrum at the end of the online convention. This is just more of the culture of threats that people have spoken out about.</div><div><br /></div><div>So yes I understand I am enabling his plans. I don't care. I know what my motives are. And I trust the delegates. Going negative at convention backfires. You know who taught me that originally? Our chair ironically enough in relating to me a past race that was for all intents and purposes won until the presumptive winner went negative and turned off the delegates.</div><div><br /></div><div>I see our conventions as a way to come together, and I hope the chair better nature prevails and he not use it to divie.<br clear="all" /><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="letter-spacing:0.2px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"> </b></div><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 102 , 102 , 102 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large">In Liberty,</b><br /></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b style="color:rgb( 255 , 0 , 255 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:large"><i><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download" width="200" height="41" /></i></b><br /></div><div><i style="font-size:small"><font size="1"><b> Personal Note: </b> I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. </font></i><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="text-align:center"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /></div></div><br /><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:14 PM <<a href="mailto:john.phillips@lp.org">john.phillips@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Yep. Which is why I made no judgement on his conclusion.<br /><br /><div>John Phillips<br />Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br />Cell 217-412-5973</div></div><div><br /><div>On Jun 30, 2020 6:59 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Mr Phillips I did have disagreements with the characterization of sine
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pints by the chair such as his very false equivalence if talking about
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cancelling when it clearly wasn’t on the table and already been decided and
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what is going on now. In that you are correct. The gaslighting continues.
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However the arch of his reasoning is correct. I honestly don’t care why he
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is taking this position. I have had alarmed messages telling me the chair
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is playing me.
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I don’t bother with 4-D chess bull crap. I am a simple woman. What is
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right and what is wrong. I let God worry about the motivations of the
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heart.
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The delegates spoke. We are not their daddy to overrule them.
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:28 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>>
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> I agree with the chair and applaud his reasoning.
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> My loyalty is with what’s right and what’s wrong.
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> The chair is right.
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> The delegates voted for this. We don’t have the right to overrule them
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> when it is still possible.
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> If there was a revote showing the delegates gave the LNC new marching
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> orders, I would revisit.
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> But right now they haven’t.
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> And we must all vow to support full remote participation.
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> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:27 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
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> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:
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>
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>> Dear All,
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>>
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>> With the news from the Rosen Group that Shingle Creek will not be
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>> available, we are working to move to an alternate venue in Orlando, the
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>> Rosen Center combined with the Convention Center, to hold the second
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>> sitting of the national convention. That involves negotiations regarding
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>> an
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>> addendum to the convention contract to reflect any concessions or changes.
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>> Our position in those negotiations is not improved by members of the
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>> Libertarian National Convention agitating to cancel the entire convention
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>> contract.
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>>
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>> Less than a month ago, my integrity was questioned and people speculated
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>> that I was lying about doing everything in my power to ensure that there
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>> would be a second sitting of the convention in Orlando. If you doubted my
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>> resolve then, do not doubt it now; I will do everything I can to ensure
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>> that we have a second sitting for the delegates who wish to attend and to
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>> not waste all of the work that the Convention Oversight Committee has done
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>> to get us to this point.
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>>
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>> We have received assurances from the CoC for months that everything was
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>> under control for an in-person convention, that all precautions would be
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>> taken, that regulations weren't being enforced or didn't matter, and that
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>> even talking about cancelling the convention was an attempt to make the
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>> convention fail. They went so far as to explicitly prevent me from using
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>> the “cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen.”
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>> Even though I told everyone that I've never executed a contract in bad
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>> faith in my life, still some doubted my commitment to follow through.
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>>
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>> Doubt no more.
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>>
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>> I trust that the Convention Oversight Committee will ensure that all the
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>> events are a success, that the LNC will vote to support the bylaws
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>> proposal
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>> for full online participation for any delegates who wish to participate
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>> remotely for whatever reason, and that the LNC will meet to make a pro
<br />
>> forma change to the location to be the Rosen Center. I trust that everyone
<br />
>> will work together to make sure that the party upholds its commitments and
<br />
>> works with our counterparty to fulfill our contract. I trust that people
<br />
>> will stop fighting about whether the convention will be a success, and
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>> start working to make sure it is a success.
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>>
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>> See you in Orlando,
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>> Nick
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>>
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> --
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>
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> *In Liberty,*
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>
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> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
<br />
> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
<br />
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
<br />
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>
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> --
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<br />
*In Liberty,*
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<br />
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
<br />
(part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
<br />
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
<br />
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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