<div dir='auto'>I have a few delegates that have not received as well.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also advise people to check "promotions" folder.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">John Phillips<br>Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative<br>Cell 217-412-5973</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2020 3:45 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">It appears the incorrect delegate list was used when sending the survey. I would ask that that list be cross-checked with the most current list from credentials and I would also ask that alternates be asked that alternates be polled as well<br /><br /><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Erin Adams Region 7 alt.</div></div><div><br /><div class="elided-text">On Jul 1, 2020 3:40 PM, Rich Bowen via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">On 2020-07-01 15:10, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
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> I have conferred with the chair and have his approval. The poll is in
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> the
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> mail
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> ---
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> Daniel Fishman
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> Executive Director
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> The Libertarian Party
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> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
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>
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> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:55 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
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> <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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> wrote:
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>
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>> I object and agree with Sam. You do not have the authority to send
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>> such a
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>> poll over the objections of the LNC unless the Chair has overridden
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>> the
<br />
>> LNC. Has he?
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>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
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>>
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>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>> anyone
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>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
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>> faux
<br />
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:42 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org>
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>> wrote:
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>>
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>>> I object. Such a simplistic poll does not even begin to address the
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>>> financial consequences to the party of a cancellation.
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>>>
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>>> ---
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>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
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>>> Libertarian National Committee
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>>> Convention Oversight Committee
<br />
>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
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>>>
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>>> On 2020-07-01 14:36, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
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>>> > What I plan to send. I think the attendance question is important. I
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>>> > will
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>>> > close the poll at midnight 3:am Eastern. I tried to gracefully
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>>> > incorporate
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>>> > the "rescind" language.
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>>> >
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>>> > [image: image.png]
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>>> > ---
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>>> > Daniel Fishman
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>>> > Executive Director
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>>> > The Libertarian Party
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>>> > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
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>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:55 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
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>>> > <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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>>> > wrote:
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>>> >
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>>> >> If the contract cannot be worked out that is out of our hands. I
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>>> >> wanted
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>>> >> the poll yesterday. Now I am done wasting my limited time on useless
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>>> >> exercises that we will then argue endlessly over. My bandwidth is at
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>>> >> its
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>>> >> end.
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>>> >>
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>>> >> *In Liberty,*
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>>> >>
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>>> >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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>>> >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >> anyone
<br />
>>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:42 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>
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>>> >>> I get your point, but I disagree. We have plenty of evidence that
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>>> >>> the
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>>> >>> delegates want to be polled that is reason enough to take the 5
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>>> >>> minutes to
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>>> >>> do it, and if they say have the convention than all is good anyway.
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>>> >>> If
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>>> >>> they say don't we have a data point to base a decision on.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> In reality sitting on the call last night there are some contract
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>>> >>> concerns that need to be worked out, and if they can't then it is
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>>> >>> moot.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> John Phillips
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>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
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>>> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 12:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
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>>> >>> wrote:
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> I do not agree with that wording. It does not answer for me the
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>>> >>> question that needs to be answered.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> And frankly it is too late. Imagine if we spent this time doing
<br />
>>> >>> something productive.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:05 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> Oh for the love of god can we just do the poll.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> Poll the delegates from Memorial day weekend.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> Ask them very simply:
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>>> >>> Would you vote to have an in person convention in Orlando July 8th
<br />
>>> >>> thru
<br />
>>> >>> 12th.
<br />
>>> >>> Yes, No, Nota.
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>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> At this point it wont matter with the screwing around going on as we
<br />
>>> >>> won't be able to meet in time to cancel even if they all vote to do
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>>> >>> so, but
<br />
>>> >>> lets do the damn poll so we at least know how bad it is.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> John Phillips
<br />
>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
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>>> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
<br />
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 11:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
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>>> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> Are you weighting the state chairs according to the number of
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>>> >>> delegates?
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>>> >>> If not, it is not representative. Colorado has significantly more
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>>> >>> delegates than other states. You cannot use the state chairs as
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>>> >>> representing delegates without that calculation.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> It is too late. I asked for this poll early yesterday. It is
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>>> >>> absolutely
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>>> >>> unethical at this point to turn people's lives upside down when we
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>>> >>> have a
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>>> >>> location.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> I have not agreed with a lot of the criticisms of this body - there
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>>> >>> has
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>>> >>> been shady business going on and we were dealt a bad hand. If we
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>>> >>> cancel
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>>> >>> when we have a location over the will of delegates at convention,
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>>> >>> this
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>>> >>> body
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>>> >>> has no business being anywhere near leadership. It is wrong, and it
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>>> >>> is
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>>> >>> robbing people who spent money and a violation of the principle of
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>>> >>> the
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>>> >>> non-initiation of force.
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM Richard Longstreth <
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>>> >>> richard.longstreth@lp.org>
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>>> >>> wrote:
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> > I'm not good with wording polls but if someone is, I'd like to get
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>>> this
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>>> >>> > started sooner rather than later. I find wisdom in hearing from the
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>>> >>> > delegates on this. My state chairs are, almost entirely, saying to
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>>> not
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>>> >>> > approve a third venue. Absent a poll of delegates, I intend to
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>>> >>> represent
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>>> >>> > their opinion and trust that they are representing their delegates
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>>> to
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>>> >>> me. I
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>>> >>> > cannot poll everyone in the region myself at this point, let alone
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>>> have
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>>> >>> > contact info for all of the delegates for speedy communication.
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>>> >>> >
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>>> >>> > Richard Longstreth
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>>> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
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>>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
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>>> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
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>>> >>> > 931.538.9300
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>>> >>> >
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>>> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
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>>> >>> >
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>>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 20:51 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
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>>> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> As far as wording that is not my call. But bad wording will kill
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>>> the
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>>> >>> >> entire usefulness.
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>>> >>> >>
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>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:50 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
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>>> >>> caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org
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>>> >>> >> >
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>>> >>> >> wrote:
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>>> >>> >>
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>>> >>> >> > The poll should be only those credentialed at the Sunday session
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>>> of
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>>> >>> the
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>>> >>> >> > first part of the convention.
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>>> >>> >> >
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>>> >>> >> > They made a decision.
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>>> >>> >> >
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>>> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM Daniel Fishman <
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>>> dan.fishman@lphq.org>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>> >> > wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >
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>>> >>> >> >> Would you like me to poll all current members? All delegates?
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>>> >>> >> >>
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>>> >>> >> >> What would you like the wording to be?
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>>> >>> >> >> ---
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>>> >>> >> >> Daniel Fishman
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>>> >>> >> >> Executive Director
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>>> >>> >> >> The Libertarian Party
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
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>>> >>> >> >>
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>>> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via
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>>> Lnc-business <
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>>> >>> >> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Hagan apologies if I was hasty though I do think in this
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>>> >>> rapidly
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>>> >>> >> >>> changing situation we must be checking our emails hourly.
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>>> >>> >> >>>
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>>> >>> >> >>> My proposal is to poll only the delegates we are seeking to
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>>> >>> overturn.
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>>> >>> >> >>> Those credentialed at the session that voted for the in person
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>>> >>> >> >>> convention.
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>>> >>> >> >>>
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>>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Richard Longstreth via
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>>> >>> Lnc-business <
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>>> >>> >> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > I am supportive.
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>>> >>> >> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > Richard Longstreth
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>>> >>> >> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT,
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>>> WA,
<br />
>>> >>> WY)
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > 931.538.9300
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
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>>> >>> >> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 15:37 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
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>>> >>> >> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > You shouldn't interpret silence as disapproval. Some people
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>>> >>> aren't
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > constantly checking their e-mails, could be working, or
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>>> still
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> processing
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > this news thrown at us last night and have questions.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > I don't have a problem with taking a poll, unless if we're
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>>> >>> going
<br />
>>> >>> >> to
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > waste time arguing over the wording or who gets polled
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>>> (e.g.
<br />
>>> >>> all
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > delegates, delegates & alternates credentialed in May,
<br />
>>> etc.).
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>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > ---
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > Tim Hagan
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
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>>> >>> >> >>> > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > On 2020-06-30 14:20, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
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>>> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > A poll could have already gone out from the national
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>>> office.
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>>> >>> >> Yet
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > except
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > for you - silence on this post.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > That is wrong. Are we scared of what they might say? I
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>>> >>> >> actually
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> think
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > they might have changed their mind, but I need to know
<br />
>>> that
<br />
>>> >>> for
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> sure.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
<br />
>>> >>> other
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
<br />
>>> let
<br />
>>> >>> me
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> know.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM <john.phillips@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Agreed. I am informally polling my region, but that is
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>>> >>> just
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>>> >>> >> one
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> region.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> John Phillips
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Cell 217-412-5973
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> On Jun 30, 2020 1:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
<br />
>>> Lnc-business
<br />
>>> >>> <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Here is something we all need to take seriously. The
<br />
>>> >>> delegates
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> voted
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> for
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> an in person convention. I don't really think we have
<br />
>>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> right
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> to
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> cancel
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> if we have a location which we do. It is usurping their
<br />
>>> >>> >> decision.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> But
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> they may think differently now. Can we poll them so we
<br />
>>> >>> know
<br />
>>> >>> >> what
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> we
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> should
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> do? This isn't about us. It is about particular state
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>>> >>> chairs
<br />
>>> >>> >> in
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> particular regions. It is about the delegate that gave
<br />
>>> us
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> specific
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> marching orders. Can we find out what THEY want?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas.
<br />
>>> >>> >> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
<br />
>>> >>> other
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
<br />
>>> >>> let me
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> know.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
<br />
>>> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > --
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 12:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> I do not agree with that wording. It does not answer for me the
<br />
>>> >>> question that needs to be answered.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> And frankly it is too late. Imagine if we spent this time doing
<br />
>>> >>> something productive.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:05 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Oh for the love of god can we just do the poll.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Poll the delegates from Memorial day weekend.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Ask them very simply:
<br />
>>> >>> Would you vote to have an in person convention in Orlando July 8th
<br />
>>> >>> thru
<br />
>>> >>> 12th.
<br />
>>> >>> Yes, No, Nota.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> At this point it wont matter with the screwing around going on as we
<br />
>>> >>> won't be able to meet in time to cancel even if they all vote to do
<br />
>>> >>> so, but
<br />
>>> >>> lets do the damn poll so we at least know how bad it is.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> John Phillips
<br />
>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
<br />
>>> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 11:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Are you weighting the state chairs according to the number of
<br />
>>> >>> delegates?
<br />
>>> >>> If not, it is not representative. Colorado has significantly more
<br />
>>> >>> delegates than other states. You cannot use the state chairs as
<br />
>>> >>> representing delegates without that calculation.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> It is too late. I asked for this poll early yesterday. It is
<br />
>>> >>> absolutely
<br />
>>> >>> unethical at this point to turn people's lives upside down when we
<br />
>>> >>> have a
<br />
>>> >>> location.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> I have not agreed with a lot of the criticisms of this body - there
<br />
>>> >>> has
<br />
>>> >>> been shady business going on and we were dealt a bad hand. If we
<br />
>>> >>> cancel
<br />
>>> >>> when we have a location over the will of delegates at convention,
<br />
>>> >>> this
<br />
>>> >>> body
<br />
>>> >>> has no business being anywhere near leadership. It is wrong, and it
<br />
>>> >>> is
<br />
>>> >>> robbing people who spent money and a violation of the principle of
<br />
>>> >>> the
<br />
>>> >>> non-initiation of force.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM Richard Longstreth <
<br />
>>> >>> richard.longstreth@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> > I'm not good with wording polls but if someone is, I'd like to get
<br />
>>> this
<br />
>>> >>> > started sooner rather than later. I find wisdom in hearing from the
<br />
>>> >>> > delegates on this. My state chairs are, almost entirely, saying to
<br />
>>> not
<br />
>>> >>> > approve a third venue. Absent a poll of delegates, I intend to
<br />
>>> >>> represent
<br />
>>> >>> > their opinion and trust that they are representing their delegates
<br />
>>> to
<br />
>>> >>> me. I
<br />
>>> >>> > cannot poll everyone in the region myself at this point, let alone
<br />
>>> have
<br />
>>> >>> > contact info for all of the delegates for speedy communication.
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > Richard Longstreth
<br />
>>> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
<br />
>>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> > 931.538.9300
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 20:51 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> As far as wording that is not my call. But bad wording will kill
<br />
>>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> entire usefulness.
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:50 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
<br />
>>> >>> caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> > The poll should be only those credentialed at the Sunday session
<br />
>>> of
<br />
>>> >>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> > first part of the convention.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > They made a decision.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM Daniel Fishman <
<br />
>>> dan.fishman@lphq.org>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> > wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Would you like me to poll all current members? All delegates?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> What would you like the wording to be?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> ---
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Daniel Fishman
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Executive Director
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> The Libertarian Party
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via
<br />
>>> Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Hagan apologies if I was hasty though I do think in this
<br />
>>> >>> rapidly
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> changing situation we must be checking our emails hourly.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> My proposal is to poll only the delegates we are seeking to
<br />
>>> >>> overturn.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Those credentialed at the session that voted for the in person
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> convention.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Richard Longstreth via
<br />
>>> >>> Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > I am supportive.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Richard Longstreth
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT,
<br />
>>> WA,
<br />
>>> >>> WY)
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > 931.538.9300
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 15:37 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > You shouldn't interpret silence as disapproval. Some people
<br />
>>> >>> aren't
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > constantly checking their e-mails, could be working, or
<br />
>>> still
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> processing
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > this news thrown at us last night and have questions.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > I don't have a problem with taking a poll, unless if we're
<br />
>>> >>> going
<br />
>>> >>> >> to
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > waste time arguing over the wording or who gets polled
<br />
>>> (e.g.
<br />
>>> >>> all
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > delegates, delegates & alternates credentialed in May,
<br />
>>> etc.).
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > ---
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > Tim Hagan
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > On 2020-06-30 14:20, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<br />
>>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > A poll could have already gone out from the national
<br />
>>> office.
<br />
>>> >>> >> Yet
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > except
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > for you - silence on this post.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > That is wrong. Are we scared of what they might say? I
<br />
>>> >>> >> actually
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> think
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > they might have changed their mind, but I need to know
<br />
>>> that
<br />
>>> >>> for
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> sure.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
<br />
>>> >>> other
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
<br />
>>> let
<br />
>>> >>> me
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> know.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM <john.phillips@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Agreed. I am informally polling my region, but that is
<br />
>>> >>> just
<br />
>>> >>> >> one
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> region.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> John Phillips
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Cell 217-412-5973
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> On Jun 30, 2020 1:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
<br />
>>> Lnc-business
<br />
>>> >>> <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Here is something we all need to take seriously. The
<br />
>>> >>> delegates
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> voted
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> for
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> an in person convention. I don't really think we have
<br />
>>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> right
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> to
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> cancel
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> if we have a location which we do. It is usurping their
<br />
>>> >>> >> decision.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> But
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> they may think differently now. Can we poll them so we
<br />
>>> >>> know
<br />
>>> >>> >> what
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> we
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> should
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> do? This isn't about us. It is about particular state
<br />
>>> >>> chairs
<br />
>>> >>> >> in
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> particular regions. It is about the delegate that gave
<br />
>>> us
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> specific
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> marching orders. Can we find out what THEY want?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas.
<br />
>>> >>> >> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
<br />
>>> >>> other
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
<br />
>>> >>> let me
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> know.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
<br />
>>> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > --
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 12:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> I do not agree with that wording. It does not answer for me the
<br />
>>> >>> question that needs to be answered.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> And frankly it is too late. Imagine if we spent this time doing
<br />
>>> >>> something productive.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:05 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Oh for the love of god can we just do the poll.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Poll the delegates from Memorial day weekend.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Ask them very simply:
<br />
>>> >>> Would you vote to have an in person convention in Orlando July 8th
<br />
>>> >>> thru
<br />
>>> >>> 12th.
<br />
>>> >>> Yes, No, Nota.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> At this point it wont matter with the screwing around going on as we
<br />
>>> >>> won't be able to meet in time to cancel even if they all vote to do
<br />
>>> >>> so, but
<br />
>>> >>> lets do the damn poll so we at least know how bad it is.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> John Phillips
<br />
>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
<br />
>>> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Jul 1, 2020 11:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> Are you weighting the state chairs according to the number of
<br />
>>> >>> delegates?
<br />
>>> >>> If not, it is not representative. Colorado has significantly more
<br />
>>> >>> delegates than other states. You cannot use the state chairs as
<br />
>>> >>> representing delegates without that calculation.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> It is too late. I asked for this poll early yesterday. It is
<br />
>>> >>> absolutely
<br />
>>> >>> unethical at this point to turn people's lives upside down when we
<br />
>>> >>> have a
<br />
>>> >>> location.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> I have not agreed with a lot of the criticisms of this body - there
<br />
>>> >>> has
<br />
>>> >>> been shady business going on and we were dealt a bad hand. If we
<br />
>>> >>> cancel
<br />
>>> >>> when we have a location over the will of delegates at convention,
<br />
>>> >>> this
<br />
>>> >>> body
<br />
>>> >>> has no business being anywhere near leadership. It is wrong, and it
<br />
>>> >>> is
<br />
>>> >>> robbing people who spent money and a violation of the principle of
<br />
>>> >>> the
<br />
>>> >>> non-initiation of force.
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM Richard Longstreth <
<br />
>>> >>> richard.longstreth@lp.org>
<br />
>>> >>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> > I'm not good with wording polls but if someone is, I'd like to get
<br />
>>> this
<br />
>>> >>> > started sooner rather than later. I find wisdom in hearing from the
<br />
>>> >>> > delegates on this. My state chairs are, almost entirely, saying to
<br />
>>> not
<br />
>>> >>> > approve a third venue. Absent a poll of delegates, I intend to
<br />
>>> >>> represent
<br />
>>> >>> > their opinion and trust that they are representing their delegates
<br />
>>> to
<br />
>>> >>> me. I
<br />
>>> >>> > cannot poll everyone in the region myself at this point, let alone
<br />
>>> have
<br />
>>> >>> > contact info for all of the delegates for speedy communication.
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > Richard Longstreth
<br />
>>> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
<br />
>>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> > 931.538.9300
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 20:51 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> As far as wording that is not my call. But bad wording will kill
<br />
>>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> entire usefulness.
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:50 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
<br />
>>> >>> caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> > The poll should be only those credentialed at the Sunday session
<br />
>>> of
<br />
>>> >>> the
<br />
>>> >>> >> > first part of the convention.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > They made a decision.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM Daniel Fishman <
<br />
>>> dan.fishman@lphq.org>
<br />
>>> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> > wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Would you like me to poll all current members? All delegates?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> What would you like the wording to be?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> ---
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Daniel Fishman
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Executive Director
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> The Libertarian Party
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via
<br />
>>> Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Hagan apologies if I was hasty though I do think in this
<br />
>>> >>> rapidly
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> changing situation we must be checking our emails hourly.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> My proposal is to poll only the delegates we are seeking to
<br />
>>> >>> overturn.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Those credentialed at the session that voted for the in person
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> convention.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Richard Longstreth via
<br />
>>> >>> Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > I am supportive.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Richard Longstreth
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT,
<br />
>>> WA,
<br />
>>> >>> WY)
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > 931.538.9300
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 15:37 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > You shouldn't interpret silence as disapproval. Some people
<br />
>>> >>> aren't
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > constantly checking their e-mails, could be working, or
<br />
>>> still
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> processing
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > this news thrown at us last night and have questions.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > I don't have a problem with taking a poll, unless if we're
<br />
>>> >>> going
<br />
>>> >>> >> to
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > waste time arguing over the wording or who gets polled
<br />
>>> (e.g.
<br />
>>> >>> all
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > delegates, delegates & alternates credentialed in May,
<br />
>>> etc.).
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > ---
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > Tim Hagan
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > >
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > On 2020-06-30 14:20, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<br />
>>> wrote:
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > A poll could have already gone out from the national
<br />
>>> office.
<br />
>>> >>> >> Yet
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > except
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > for you - silence on this post.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > That is wrong. Are we scared of what they might say? I
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>>> >>> >> actually
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>>> >>> >> >>> think
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > they might have changed their mind, but I need to know
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>>> that
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>>> >>> for
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>>> >>> >> >>> sure.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * In Liberty,*
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
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>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas. If
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>>> >>> >> >>> anyone
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
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>>> >>> other
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>>> >>> >> >>> social
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > faux
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
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>>> let
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>>> >>> me
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>>> >>> >> >>> know.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > *
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM <john.phillips@lp.org>
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>>> >>> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Agreed. I am informally polling my region, but that is
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>>> >>> just
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>>> >>> >> one
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> region.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> John Phillips
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Cell 217-412-5973
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> On Jun 30, 2020 1:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
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>>> Lnc-business
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>>> >>> <
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> Here is something we all need to take seriously. The
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>>> >>> delegates
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>>> >>> >> >>> voted
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> for
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> an in person convention. I don't really think we have
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>>> the
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>>> >>> >> right
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>>> >>> >> >>> to
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> cancel
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> if we have a location which we do. It is usurping their
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>>> >>> >> decision.
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> But
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> they may think differently now. Can we poll them so we
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>>> >>> know
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>>> >>> >> what
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>>> >>> >> >>> we
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> should
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> do? This isn't about us. It is about particular state
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>>> >>> chairs
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>>> >>> >> in
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> particular regions. It is about the delegate that gave
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>>> us
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>>> >>> >> >>> specific
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> marching orders. Can we find out what THEY want?
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as
<br />
>>> >>> Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect
<br />
>>> >>> inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic
<br />
>>> >>> arenas.
<br />
>>> >>> >> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
<br />
>>> >>> other
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and
<br />
>>> >>> let me
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> know.
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >> *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > > >>
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>>> >>> >> >>> > >
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>>> >>> >> >>> >
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>>> >>> >> >>> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
<br />
>>> If
<br />
>>> >>> >> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> >>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >>>
<br />
>>> >>> >> >> --
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> >>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> >> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >> >
<br />
>>> >>> >> > --
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> *In Liberty,*
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
<br />
>>> Syndrome
<br />
>>> >>> >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
<br />
>>> >>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
<br />
>>> >>> anyone
<br />
>>> >>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
<br />
>>> social
<br />
>>> >>> faux
<br />
>>> >>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
<br />
>>> >>> >>
<br />
>>> >>> >
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>>
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>>
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Just delegates or delegates and alternates?
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--
<br />
Rich Bowen
<br />
LNC Region 8 Alternate
<br />
NJ/NY/CT/RI/MA/VT/NH/ME
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</p>
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