[Lnc-business] Update: E-MAIL BALLOT: Hinkle motion to purchase a building

Starchild sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Thu Jan 24 05:52:09 EST 2013 

Dan,

	I was not aware that Scott is a second alternate for a regional representative from one state (Nevada) and alternate from another state (New York), while simultaneously serving as an alternate for a representative from yet another state (yourself from California). 

	Even if that odd arrangement is proper -- perhaps you or someone else can cite language confirming this, for the record? -- it seems dubious to me that it would be proper for Scott to vote on mail ballots in his second alternate capacity. Second alternates are not listed on the LNC page on LP.org ( http://www.lp.org/lnc-leadership ) and have not, to my knowledge, been allowed to participate on the LNC email lists. If they can't participate on these lists, then they would normally have no way of voting in email ballots posted to these lists, and thus for Scott to vote as a second alternate would be taking advantage of the list access he enjoys due to his position as an alternate, an advantage not available to other second alternates.

	As reflected in Jim Lark's very helpfully detailed documentation below (thank you, Jim!), I happen to agree with the vote that Scott cast on this motion, but I do want to make sure that we are conducting our affairs in a fair and equitable manner. If Scott is allowed to vote as a second alternate in cases where neither Brett Pojunis nor Audrey Capozzi cast a vote, then it seems to me that other LNC second alternates should also be allowed to subscribe to and participate on the LNC lists, and vote in cases where they may be similarly eligible to do so.

Love & Liberty,
                                   ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Daniel Wiener wrote:

> In response to your question below regarding Dr. Lieberman's vote, my vote does indeed supersede his, since he serves as my first alternate in our double region.  However, he also serves as Brett Pojunis' second alternate.  Therefore, if neither Brett nor Audrey Capozzi end up casting a vote, Dr. Lieberman's vote will count along with mine.
> 
> Dan Wiener
> 
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM, James Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu> wrote:
> Dear colleagues:
> 
>     I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as Secretary Pro Tem to provide you with an update about Mark Hinkle's first motion (moved by Geoff Neale) concerning the purchase of a building.
> 
> 1)  I have enclosed below a list of the votes cast so far.  In addition, I have enclosed below a list of the voters and the dates on which they cast votes.  Please review both lists; please let me know if you find any errors.  In particular, if you have voted and your vote has not been recorded (or has been recorded incorrectly), please send me your vote and forward to me previous messages in which you cast your vote.
> 
>     As of this moment, the vote totals are as follows (listed in alphabetical order of surname):
> 
> Ayes (6):   Cloud, Hinkle, Kirkland, Myers, Redpath, Vohra
> Nays (7):  Lark, Mack, Olsen, Starchild, Visek, Wiener, Wrights
> 
> Note:  Mr. Goldstein (Region 3 alternate) voted "nay"; his vote is superseded by the "nay" vote of Ms. Mack.  Dr. Lieberman (Region 4 alternate) voted "nay"; I believe his vote is superseded by the "nay" vote of Mr. Wiener.  (Mr. Wiener should confirm whether his vote does indeed supersede Dr. Lieberman's vote.)  Mr. Frankel (Region 7 alternate) voted "aye"; his vote is superseded by the aye vote of Mr. Myers.
> 
> 2)  The voting period closes as of 9:30 p.m. EST this evening (Thursday, Jan. 24).  If you wish to vote and have not done so, or if you wish to change your vote, please send your vote to me (and the LNC-Business list) prior to 9:30 p.m. EST this evening.
> 
> 3)  Please note that votes submitted to the Secretary are not supposed to contain arguments concerning the motion.  Specifically, Section 1.04 (Electronic Mail Ballot Procedures) of the LNC Policy Manual reads as follows:
> 
> Electronic mail ballots shall not include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the motion. Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her vote on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received by the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
> 
> 4)  I am planning to attend the Va. Tech - University of Virginia men's basketball game in Blacksburg this evening.  Thus, I shall not be able to announce the result of the vote until sometime tomorrow (Friday, Jan. 25).
> 
>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.  Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of assistance to you.
> 
>     Take care,
>     Jim
> 
>     James W. Lark, III
>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>     University of Virginia
> 
>     Region 5S Representative
>     Secretary Pro Tem
>     Libertarian National Committee
> -----
> 
> E-Mail Ballot:  Hinkle Motion (voting began 9:30 p.m. EST, Jan. 14, 2013; voting will conclude at 9:30 p.m. EST, Jan. 24)
> 
> 
>  
> Cloud:  Aye (received LNC-Business, 8:38 a.m. EST, Jan. 18)
> 
> Hagan:
> 
> Hinkle:  Aye (received LNC-Business, 11:51 a.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Kirkland:  Aye (received LNC-Business, 6:25 p.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Lark:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 12:43 a.m. EST, Jan. 24)
> 
> Mack:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 9:04 p.m. EST, Jan. 19)
> 
> Myers:  Aye (received LNC-Discussion, 7:03 p.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Neale:
> 
> Olsen:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 1:42 a.m. EST, Jan. 16)
> 
> Pojunis:
> 
> Redpath:  Aye (received LNC-Business, 3:44 p.m. EST, Jan. 17)
> 
> Starchild:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 8:25 p.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Tomasso:
> 
> Visek:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 12:11 a.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Vohra:  Aye (received LNC-Discussion, 6:34 p.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Wiener:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 12:47 a.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Wrights:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 10:03 p.m. EST, Jan. 18)
> 
> 
> Alternates:
> 
> Ryan:
> 
> Schrade:
> 
> Goldstein:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 10:19 p.m. EST, Jan. 14)
> 
> Capozzi:
> 
> Lieberman:  Nay (received LNC-Business, 7:52 a.m. EST, Jan. 15)
> 
> Blau:
> 
> Spencer:
> 
> Knebel:
> 
> Frankel:  Aye (received LNC-Business, 11:35 p.m. EST, Jan. 14)
> 
>  
> 
> SUBJECT:  E-MAIL BALLOT ON HINKLE MOTION TO PURCHASE A BUILDING
> 
> Text of Motion:
> 
> Moved, that the LNC approve the purchase of an office in the greater Washington, D.C. area, to be named in honor of David F. Nolan, contingent on the following conditions:
> 
> ·         A minimum of 20% of the down payment shall be raised from dedicated contributions.  If a portion of that is in the form of pledges, the pledges must be converted to cash before a purchase contract and mortgage agreement are finalized.
> 
> ·         The monthly payment of principal, interest, and OTM (Overhead, Taxes, and Maintenance) shall not exceed 75% of our current lease payments at the Watergate complex.
> 
> This motion will constitute authority to incur a mortgage if the above conditions are met and if this motion passes by the necessary two-thirds vote as specified in the Libertarian Party’s Bylaws.
> 
> The final decision on what property to buy shall be ratified by the LNC's Executive Committee by a majority vote once the above conditions are met.
> 
> 
> SPONSOR:  Geoff Neale (motion submitted to LNC-Business list at 9:23 p.m. EST on Monday, Jan. 14, 2013)
> 
> VOTING PERIOD OPENS:  9:30 p.m. EST, Monday, January 14, 2013
> 
> VOTING PERIOD CONCLUDES:  9:30 p.m. EST, Thursday, January 24, 2013
> 
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