[Lnc-business] MOTION - Re: Truth in advertising on building fund (letter to donors)

Starchild sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Sat Jun 22 08:15:35 EDT 2013


Geoff,

	I believe "electronic mail ballots" refers to just the official email sent out by the secretary that gives notice a vote is underway, since until a motion is sponsored by enough LNC members to be voted on, it is not a "ballot".

Love & Liberty,
                                 ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jun 22, 2013, at 5:03 AM, Geoffrey Neale wrote:

> Starchild:
> 
> Under my authority as Chair, I am ruling that your "motion" is out of order.
> 
> LP Policy Manual states: "Electronic mail ballots shall not include an
> accompanying argument for or against passage of the motion."
> 
> Geoffrey Neale
> Chair
> Libertarian National Committee
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> Starchild
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 5:50 AM
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: [Lnc-business] MOTION - Re: Truth in advertising on building fund
> (letter to donors)
> 
> (NOTE: The automated email didn't accept this message the first time I tried
> sending it, so rather than let it sit in an electronic cue I cancelled the
> posting and have recopied it here. - Starchild)
> 
> *     *     *
> 
> From: Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
> Date: June 22, 2013 3:31:00 AM PDT
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Cc: LPSF Discussion List <lpsf-discuss at yahoogroups.com>, Grassroots
> Libertarians Caucus <GrassrootsLibertarians at yahoogroups.com>, LP Radical
> Caucus <lpradicals at yahoogroups.com>, calibs <CALibs at yahoogroups.com>, San
> Diego LP Chat List <sdlibchat at listserv.sdlp.org>, Jill Pyeatt
> <stone at altrionet.com>, Krzysztof Lesiak <clesiak522 at gmail.com>, Libertarians
> for 9/11 Truth <Libertariansfor911Truth at yahoogroups.com>, "Outright
> Libertarian-Natl." <OutrightLibertarians at yahoogroups.com>, Libertarians For
> Animal Rights <libertarians_for_animal_rights at yahoogroups.com>,
> lpusmisc at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CALibs] MOTION - Re: Truth in advertising on building fund (letter
> to donors)
> Reply-To: CALibs at yahoogroups.com
> 
> 	As I noted in a June 19 message to the Libertarian National
> Committee's LNC-discuss list,
> 
>> . We promised donors to the project [to purchase a new LP national
> headquarters building] that their money would be spent to buy a *building*,
> which would be named the "David F. Nolan Memorial Building" -- not just
> office space in a building. I've seen nothing in this proposal to indicate
> that we would even have naming rights to the building as a whole...  we need
> to act with integrity and fulfill the promises we make to people when we ask
> them to give us their money. People are already calling this a
> "bait-and-switch", and they have a valid point. If we go forward with this,
> it will undermine the confidence of donors and supporters in the party. 
> 
> 	Having seen no messages disagreeing with that assessment, I hope all
> of you will join me in supporting the following motion:
> 
> MOTION:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Whereas it is important that the Libertarian Party act with integrity and
> fulfill any promises made in fundraising appeals to donors concerning how
> their donations will be spent, and
> 
> Whereas donors have a right to expect this of the Libertarian Party when
> making donations to the party, and
> 
> Whereas LP secretary David Blau as head of the building fund has
> acknowledged the "mistake" of having been "a bit lax informing the donors
> that we were investigating an office condo, rather than a full building",
> and
> 
> Whereas fundraising appeals for the project to purchase a new LP
> headquarters building repeatedly referred to purchasing a building, rather
> than only purchasing space in a building, examples of which language can be
> seen in the fundraising letter published at
> http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/04/libertarian-party-put-your
> -name-on-the-david-nolan-memorial-building/;
> 
> Therefore if the Libertarian Party purchases the office space at 1101 King
> Street #160, in Alexandria, Virginia, which the Executive Committee voted to
> authorize the Building Committee to enter into negotiations concerning, or
> any other office space not comprising an entire building, the committee in
> charge of the building fund shall send all donors to this fund, by email or
> printed letter, a written explanation and apology for using the funds to buy
> a part of a building, rather than an entire building as was repeatedly
> described in fundraising letters seeking donations for the project. This
> letter shall ask each donor to send an email to LP secretary and building
> fund point man David Blau (secretary at lp.org), stating the donor's preference
> that his or her donation be (a) spent on office space in a building
> purchased under the authorization of the LNC in lieu of actually buying a
> building, (b) refunded, in which case a full refund shall be issued to that
> donor as soon as reasonably possible, or (c) put toward another Libertarian
> Party budget item of the donor's choice, which should be specified in the
> donor's email to the secretary; and inform them that if they have any
> further questions or concerns about the project to purchase a new office or
> how their donation is being handled they are welcome to contact one of their
> LNC representatives (listed at http://www.lp.org/lnc-leadership).
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 	I am seeking co-sponsors for this motion, and urge all my fellow
> representatives and alternates on the Libertarian National Committee to
> reply to this email as co-sponsors. Let us not dishonor David Nolan's memory
> by giving even the appearance of raising under false pretenses money to be
> used toward purchasing a space to be dedicated to him.
> 
> Love & Liberty,
>                                  ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative,
> Libertarian National Committee
> 
> 
> P.S. - If anyone not on the Libertarian National Committee receiving this
> message has thoughts on this matter that you would like me to share with the
> LNC, please let me know. I hope you will encourage them to support this
> motion.
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