[Lnc-business] FW: ACTION ITEM - Sign on to lobby the LNC on conventions, transparency

[Scott L.]

In this particular case, Starchild’s wish is my command.


   Scott Lieberman

 

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From: ba-liberty at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ba-liberty at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Starchild sfdreamer at earthlink.net [ba-liberty]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:19 PM
To: Grassroots Libertarians Caucus; LP Radical Caucus; Independent Political
Report; Jill Pyeatt; Paulie Frankel; LPSF Discussion List; Bay Area Liberty;
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Subject: [ba-liberty] ACTION ITEM - Sign on to lobby the LNC on conventions,
transparency
Importance: High

 

  

            Sending this out as an experiment to see whether it's worth
trying to solicit co-signers to letters lobbying the LNC, by seeing how many
people respond and how quickly. 

 

            If you agree with what I say below, please write me back ASAP
with your name and state to join me in adding your names to this email
response to LNC members, in support of (1) getting more information and
accountability on unnecessary money spent on conventions, (2) making the
party more bottom-up by allowing delegates more time to debate changes to
party rules, platform, and leadership at conventions, not less, and (3) more
transparency.

 

Love & Liberty,

                                 ((( starchild )))

 

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Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] convention duration and costs

 

            Excellent call, Daniel! We agree staff's list of unneeded
expenses that could cut our national convention costs in half so we spend
$60,000 rather than $120,000 should be documented. As members of the
Libertarian Party, we share Daniel's interest in seeing this information
shared, and seeing it acted upon. 

 

            While we welcome and thank Wes Benedict for coming forward with
this information, however, we do not like the idea of shorter conventions as
a way of saving money. Conventions are vital to our party's governance, and
they happen only once every two years. We want a more bottom-up party with
more time at conventions for members to engage in party governance (update
platform and bylaws, pass resolutions, and hear debates among candidates for
LNC positions), not less. At our June 2014 convention, there was an
important resolution that did not get considered and debated because we ran
out of time, and few proposals were considered from the floor. For those who
find the current format boring, longer conventions would give us time to
work in lots of fun stuff and local activism as well as our business
sessions. There should also be a full, open investigation by the Convention
Site Selection Committee into holding conventions at less expensive,
non-traditional venues.

 

            By the way, we request all of you on the LNC to include your
names and contact info on your email messages to the LNC list, as Wes
Benedict did below, to make it clearer who is saying what. That way LP
members reading messages forwarded from the list will be able to clearly
identify who is saying what, and how to reach them.


For liberty,

Starchild (California)

 

 

P.S. - Would a member of the LNC please forward this message to the LNC list
so it appears there for the record, since we cannot post?

 

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On Sep 1, 2014, at 6:16 PM, lnc-votes at hq.lp.org wrote:




Wes,

I am a little lost here..Not sure where Mr Olsen’s referenced email is.  If
there are blatant unneeded expenses then please share those here with us
Wes. Consider this a formal request from the District 7 Regional Alternate
for the information.

Daniel Hayes

 

 

 

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On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:




I'm confident a survey of members would show people would prefer shorter
conventions. (I think that's what Mr. Olsen is suggesting below.) I don't
recall that question being asked in a survey in recent years. But I do hear
the complaint quite often that the conventions are too long, too boring, too
much parliamentary theatrics, and too expensive. Shorter would be less
boring and less expensive. Training could more easily be fit in before the
convention for those that enjoy hanging around for more days. And for those
that try to squeeze in local sight-seeing, a shorter convention would make
it easier for delegates to join their families. One less average hotel night
per convention would be a great goal.

LP Texas had over 300 attendees at its 2014 convention at a cheap venue. I
don't know the total budget, but I'd like be interested in knowing. And I'll
take a guess it cost $25,000. 

The 2014 national convention in Ohio cost over $120,000.

I'm pretty confident Robert Kraus and I could design a pretty good 2018
national convention for 400 to 700 delegates that cost $60,000. That's
because he and I know of a lot of costs at the 2010, 2012, & 2014
conventions that could have been reduced or avoided. 

$60,000 versus $120,000. Our services and advice are available upon request
(but preferably not this coming week due to other priorities).

Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

On 8/31/2014 1:21 PM, Norm Olsen wrote:



The schedule of official business of the 2018 national convention of the LNC
shall consist of 2½ days, commencing on the morning of Saturday, May 26,
2018  and adjourning by 2PM on Monday, May 28, 2018.

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