[Lnc-business] seeking co-sponsors for email ballot regarding Oregon

Thu Aug 7 20:42:20 EDT 2014

I will oppose any and all efforts to get the LNC involved in the LP  Ore
gon's internal matters.  We have wasted enough of our time, energy and  money 
to no avail and there is no sense in stroking fires or egos any  further.

I am especially opposed to any use of LNC staff to intervene in this  
squabble and would also oppose any official LNC presence at any LP Oregon  
convention during this term.

Let us proceed to work on the betterment of state affiliates that want our  
help, build a war chest for the 2016 Presidential campaign and keep focused 
on  our effort to return the idea of Liberty to our country.

Live  Free,

Sam Goldstein
At Large Representative
Libertarian National  Committee
317-850-0726 Mobile
sam.goldstein at lp.org  Email

In a message dated 8/7/2014 8:01:24 P.M. US Eastern Daylight Time,  
wes.benedict at lp.org writes:

The LP Louisiana went through vicious infighting  while I was there in 
2011. There were at least three factions. I think I  actually managed to stay 
friendly with all three factions throughout the  fighting, and I'm on speaking 
terms with all three factions today. I  occasionally converse productively 
with them via email and phone. 

I  haven't figured out in my mind how to help resolve the Oregon situation 
or how  I think it should be resolved. I just do what the chair at the time 
instructs  me to do when it comes to Oregon (I've served under three chairs 
now during  this Oregon dispute). Otherwise, I try to keep staff and myself 
out of it, and  assume it could go on forever. 

Nevertheless, against my better  judgement, I'll offer the possibility that 
I'd be willing to make an attempt  to have a productive conversation will 
all three factions in the Oregon  dispute if all three factions want my help. 
I consider the three factions in  this dispute to be the Wagner group, the 
Reeve's group, and the LNC. However,  it would not be surprising to me if 
one, two, or even all three of those  groups would rather see me go jump in 
the Potomac than wade into the Oregon  dispute.

In any case, I do think it's sad to see so much fighting about  this. Wish 
we could find a way to work together, or at least work  separately--rather 
than work against each other. 

Yours in  liberty,

Wes Benedict, Executive  Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
New  address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232,  _wes.benedict at lp.org_ 
(mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org) 
facebook.com/libertarians  @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

On  8/7/2014 5:48 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:

The Wagner group has been for a while essentially treated as the  affiliate 
by our staff due to administrative decisions, rather than the past  
decisions of the LNC which were to recognize the Reeves group and not the  Wagner 
group.

The only rationale I have heard for this is the  Judicial Committee ruling 
dated August 25, 2011.  I have already  explained numerous ways in which the 
JC ruling is inoperable.  Rather  than repeat them all again while the 
readers' eyes glaze over, I'll just  emphasize that at the very least it is 
inoperable because the Oregon SOS  refuses to accept the responsibility the JC 
attempted (without bylaw  authority) to delegate to them.  The JC said the 
SOS has to do it.  Then the SOS said a judge has to do it.  The judge says the 
party  has to do it, in contradiction to the JC which said the party can't 
do it.  That's an inoperable JC decision in the most basic sense of the 
word,  without even having to dig into longer debates about rules which I have  
previously presented, which I believe also make the JC ruling null and  void.

I am asking for co-sponsors for the following  motion:

----------START OF MOTION----------

WHEREAS, the national Libertarian Party's  Judicial Committee ruling dated 
August 25, 2011 is  inoperable;

RESOLVED, the Libertarian National Committee (LNC)  Secretary is directed 
to send a letter to the Oregon Secretary of  State:

1) Asking her office to correct their records because after  May 21, 2011, 
the outgoing chair of the Libertarian Party of Oregon (Wes  Wagner) failed 
to notify them of the expiration of his term; and

2)  Reminding her that the LNC has several times acknowledged the 
legitimacy of  the Tim Reeves group of officers who were selected on May 21, 2011 to  
replace them (and by implication, any subsequent successor  officers);

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the LNC hereby directs staff  to update their 
records to reflect that the Tim Reeves group of officers are  - and have 
been since May 21, 2011 - the leadership of the Libertarian Party  of Oregon 
and that they are entitled to the same rights and privileges as  that of any 
other affiliate, including being listed on our party's website,  subscribed 
to the state chairs' email list, and sent monthly data files  required by LNC 
policy.

----------END OF  MOTION----------

-Alicia

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