[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: [Lnc-votes] Why are there two Green Parties?

[Joshua Katz]

Here is Paulies reply to my previous email. Dues exist in the actual
serious party, but are irrelevant.

I find this rather pointless, since we're the more successful party, and in
any case need not copy them, but, again, there it is. Will advocates of a
floor fee who argue from Green practice also advocate to not require dues
to hold party office or run for President?
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From: <travellingcircus at gmail.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2014 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Why are there two Green Parties?
To: "Joshua Katz" <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
Cc:

That is correct, and yes.

Thx,

-p


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Okay, so both charge dues, the serious large one had a floor fee, but dues
> are irrelevant in the large one? Thanks for clarifying. May I forward your
> email?
>  On Aug 10, 2014 1:18 PM, <travellingcircus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The small G/GPUSA faction relies primarily on dues.
>>
>> Scott is pointing out that the larger Green Party also now charges
>> "dues". However, as you correctly pointed out they don't make a big deal
>> out of those, it's just a fundraising tactic (and from what I understand
>> not a very successful one, nor one they have been pushing much). It doesn't
>> mean anything as far as participation in conventions, national party
>> leadership or much of anything at all.
>>
>> The G/GPUSA statement about dues was probably written before the larger
>> Green Party had any "dues" at all...I believe the national Green Party
>> "dues" are a more recent invention (and one that has largely fallen by the
>> wayside since they tried to institute it).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:11 AM, <lnc-votes at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the one that charges dues, according to past posts, is the small
>>> one less interested in elections, so that would mean the one that is more
>>> serious as a party charges neither dues nor a floor fee?
>>>
>>> The description of the LP factions on that website is a bit odd.
>>>
>>> Joshua Katz
>>> On Aug 10, 2014 1:06 PM, "Scott L." <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Green Party organization that charges dues is the same one that has
>>>> a mandatory Registration Fee for their Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had to triple check that sentence to make sure I got it correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Scott Lieberman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So one charges dues, and one has floor fees. Interesting.
>>>>
>>>>   JK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those of you that follow the Green Party already know about this.
>>>>
>>>> I had a vague idea that there were a few state Green Parties that were
>>>> not part of the National Green Party.  But - I had no idea how deep that
>>>> schism was until I read this web page:
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.greenparty.org/why.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think LNC members should read that web page, since it shows what the
>>>> Libertarian Party can turn into if we can’t decide what we want to be when
>>>> we grow up.
>>>>
>>>>    Scott Lieberman
>>>>
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