[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-13: Increase funding for KY lawsuit

[Joshua Katz]

I sympathize with the member's points.  On the question of "why this
candidate" I do have a suggestion.  There was a movie not too long ago
about a young family that was stalked by home invaders.  At one point,
they asked "why us?"  The invaders answered "because you were here."

If we want to launch a case about debates, and there are many (most)
candidates excluded from debates, who should we fight for?  Here's an
idea - someone who takes the initiative to file a suit and to ask for
help.  I find that perfectly fair.

The cash flow issue is a major sticking point to me - but my proposals
for spending freezes were shot down with no sponsors, so why pick on
this one item - which is integral to our viability as a party - rather
than the many other things we spend on?

This is not, as far as I know, a fight they wanted us to fight.  They
wanted us to shut up and be excluded.  Their defense cost them money.
The appeal will cost them money.

Finally, I think it is important that the LNC set the precedent that,
when we get involved in something, we see it through.

Joshua Katz
Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Norm Olsen <region1rep at donedad.com> wrote:
> Nay!
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> I understand the emotion for this motion, but we need to go beyond emotion
> and make objective hard choices.
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> 1>     We are still in a bit of a cash flow problem; reserves remain less
> than that required by the Policy Manual.
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> 2>     Presumably we have already used our best argument and lost.  Throwing
> more money at this is emotionally driven.
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> 3>     Losing battles of this nature provide undesirable precedent.  Let’s
> accept our loss and get on with building an organization.
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> 4>     This is fighting the battles the R’s and D’s want us to burn our
> meager resources fighting.  We need to be more selective is choosing the
> battles which we choose to fight.  In so doing, we need to fight battles
> which we can win. It’s winning battles that moves us forward, regardless of
> how minor the “win” is.
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> 5>     There are candidates in several (most?) states who were excluded from
> debates. I am unaware of how one state/candidate was selected for this
> effort.
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> 6>     If we want to make “getting our candidates in the debates” a strategy
> for future success, then let’s do so formally with a project, a committee,
> publicity, a fund raising effort, etc.  The 2012 proposed project labeled
> “Legal Offense Fund” comes to mind.  If that’s what we objectively decide to
> do, then let’s do it and do it with vigor and do it well.
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> Norm
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> Norman T Olsen
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> Regional Representative, Region 1
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> Libertarian National Committee
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> 7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
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> Littleton, CO  80122-271-
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> 303-263-4995
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> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> Alicia Mattson
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:47 AM
> To: lnc-business
> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-13: Increase funding for KY
> lawsuit
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> We have an electronic mail ballot.
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> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by November 4, 2014 at 11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.
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> Sponsor:  Nick Sarwark
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> Motion:  Increase the budget for the Kentucky litigation from $9,000 to
> $14,000.
>
> Alicia Mattson
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> LNC Secretary
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