[Lnc-business] student memberships for $10?

Fri Dec 5 16:32:04 EST 2014

I agree with the concept that students are good future recruits.  On the
cost side, students tend to be rather indoctrinated.

I don't know how much the price change would impact recruitment.  It's more
likely to me that recruitment would be built by having student
organizations that recruit students.  But I literally don't know - maybe it
would make a difference.  Free food brings students, suggesting that they
don't have much money, but I do see students drop $50 at the bar.

We already have a free membership.

On the other hand, the free membership doesn't carry a vote.  On the other
hand, you don't need to be a member to be a delegate.  Do our college
students want to run for LNC?  Is that a good idea to encourage?  I don't
know many million dollar corporations with college students on their
boards, so it doesn't seem like a huge issue.

I like $10 gets you a backpack.  Then we get advertising and they pay us.
T-shirts would work too.  $10 can also get you, I don't know, time with the
speaker if we ever happen to run an event on your campus?

I have no strong feelings on this.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Arvin Vohra <arvin at arvinvohra.com> wrote:

> How about the benefit being one of those drawstring backpack things (in
> white, not blue!!)? I mean, what better on-campus advertising could we ask
> for?
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
>>  When I was in college, I could by a case of Milwaukee's Best for $6
>> when it was on sale at a few drug stores (usually it was $8 - 1991).
>>
>> I was short on money. I measured every opportunity in terms of how many
>> beers it would cost me.
>>
>> I'm not saying I did it, but I'll say that lots of college students snuck
>> beers in their pockets into bars and restaurants because of the high prices.
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>>  On 12/5/2014 1:55 PM, Arvin Vohra wrote:
>>
>> Also, strategically, I agree with Wes. People want to be able to be
>> officially involved in the LP, particularly Libertarian students. In
>> college money, $25 might as well be $5,000.
>>
>>  In fact, to Scott's point: because 2-3 beers cost 25, most college
>> students "pregame" before going out, in order to avoid spending the 25.
>> Fraternity party admission is usually around $6-$10, and includes the
>> traditional all you can drink get-you-drunk punch.
>>
>>  -Arvin
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>>  Oh, I forgot to mention the overall point is to get students to start
>>> thinking of themselves as Libertarian Party members and to get them in our
>>> database. So perhaps they'll become future donors and activists. Would be
>>> nice to get them in our database.
>>>
>>> I would not be encouraging them to attend monthly meetings focused on
>>> bylaws tweaking.
>>>
>>> I joined as a student. I realize not everyone has. I didn't go to
>>> monthly meetings as a student. I would have liked a nice long sleeve balck
>>> t-shirt - not an ugly one. We have lots of people in our database who
>>> started out donating $25, and later are donating hundreds and thousands.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to give candidate, county chairs, and others a reason to
>>> visit SFL and YAL events as guests, and something to do when they're there.
>>> I'd like to have a nice membership application card in their hand that is
>>> professionally designed and printed that they can bring.
>>>
>>> "Hi, I'm running for Congress as a Libertarian. I'd be happy to be a
>>> guest speaker at one of your future meetings."
>>>
>>> Gary Johnson for President filled an auditorium at LSU with over 300
>>> students. I was there. No one handed out "Join the LP" forms. Even the Gary
>>> Johnson campaign didn't have signs or stickers hardly at all at that point.
>>>
>>> I brought signs and stickers from my Super PAC. Those were taken in huge
>>> quantities. I had my mother, father, and wife handing them out. It's the
>>> first and only time I've ever got my family involved. They enjoyed handing
>>> out stuff to the students and the students enjoyed taking it.
>>>
>>>  Wish I had had a student membership form just in case.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>>> wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>>   On 12/5/2014 1:33 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>
>>> We could leave one "fill in the blank" benefit for locals to add.
>>>
>>> For example, "Bring membership card or paid ap for free hurricane at
>>> your first Orleans Parish event."
>>>  Or "Bring card for free lunch with famous professor Walter Block."
>>> Or "Bring card for free professional ten minute neck massage."
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>>> wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>>  On 12/5/2014 1:16 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my delegates to Natcon complained about the cost of everything
>>> and wanted a student discount. SO he wanted the same voice we had for less
>>> money. I know with  100% certainty that there are some college students
>>> that want the BSM…for a discount.
>>> I can understand the desire to get more student involvement. So offer a
>>> basic student membership with some minor swag(non-pornographic)..and then
>>> offer the full student membership for $25… No matter what we do..someone is
>>> gonna complain..and at the end of the day…if its important to them and they
>>> have to pay that big awful $25..then it will mean that much more to them.
>>>
>>>  Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC Region 7 Alternate Representative.
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'll propose the opposite question first: would any student care if
>>> they weren't considered a "bylaws sustaining member"? Would they even know
>>> what that meant or care to listen to an answer? I probably wouldn't bring
>>> it up, though might put it in the fine print.
>>>
>>> Why join is in the "benefits TBD".
>>>
>>> I can imagine the benefits including whatever seems to work, such as a
>>> nice shirt, a nice set of bumper stickers and other stuff, special access
>>> to Dr. Jim Lark, a membership card, a free candidate for President yard
>>> sign or window decal, or a free book, LP News if they check the box
>>> requesting it, etc. Whatever we can afford. Probably not an AR-15. I'd
>>> experiment to see what students want, plus do some research.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall $10 memberships at other student organizations but
>>> didn't want to get too deep into deciding benefits. We have free
>>> memberships now. Plus all these others.
>>> https://www.lp.org/membership-levels
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>>> wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>>  On 12/5/2014 12:12 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>> If its not a sustaining member then what would be the reason for the
>>> student to even do it?
>>>
>>>  Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC Region 7 Alternate Representative
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Dear LNC,
>>>
>>> I'd like to offer some type of student membership for $10 with
>>> appropriate benefits TBD.  These memberships would not be considered
>>> "bylaws Sustaining Members."
>>>
>>> First, I'd like feedback from the LNC on the concept, before I get into
>>> suggestions on programs. Second, I'd like the bylaws and Policy Manual
>>> aficionados to advise on what would have to happen for the technical
>>> implementation if that were decided upon.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>>> wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
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