[Lnc-business] LNC Ballot Access Action Report

Wes Benedict wes.benedict at lp.org
Tue Dec 9 12:59:01 EST 2014


If there's someone local to manage it all, like in CT, and the process 
you described can work, I have no problem with it. Just want to be 
careful about imposing things on states that have unintended consequences.

Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
*New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
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On 12/9/2014 12:55 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
> I think in some states you can get a definitive answer as to whether 
> or not a signature is valid, like Virgina? However, I think in many, 
> it's a case where internal validators (the Libertarian petition 
> organizers) are making educated guesses as to whether or not a 
> signature is valid before it is submitted to the state.
>
> In Texas in 2004, we collected over 80,000 signatures. I don't think 
> we were ever told which ones were valid. Perhaps the info was 
> available, but not until two or three months after the drive was over. 
> In the intermediate time, one person in Houston had a group inspecting 
> them. They were marking many of them invalid that I thought were 
> probably valid. I had lots of arguments with the Houston people, and 
> finally won. I didn't want them crossing off signatures that might be 
> considered good by the state of Texas. And this had nothing to do with 
> paying anyone commissions.
>
> There is significant value to dealing with petitioners who have a 
> reputation of getting the job done with decent validity.
>
> I favor keeping the contracts simple, and would prefer a more 
> expensive $2.50 flat rate with reliable petitioners, than a 
> complicated process with cheaper per sig but much higher overhead.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 12/9/2014 12:44 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>> What about something like $1.00 per raw sig plus $2.00 per valid sig?
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org 
>> <mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Here's a proposal to save money on ballot access.
>>
>>     Instead of spending $2.50 per signature for most states most of
>>     the time, look for opportunities to spend less where the risk is
>>     low and time to experiment exits. You offer it at $2.00, and see
>>     if any reputable petitioners come forward. Then get the drive
>>     done for $2/sig if they come forward. If not, up the price. I
>>     wouldn't mess around with low-ball offers like 50 cents, etc.
>>     You'll get lots of takers that won't actually get anything done.
>>
>>     By the way, I've also suggested the opposite direction, when the
>>     risk is high, and time is short. Instead of spending
>>     $2/signature, I've suggested spending $2.50 (so you don't end up
>>     with emergencies paying for flights, hotels, etc.)
>>
>>     Even if my suggestion is rejected, overall, I think we're getting
>>     great deal on petitioning at $2.50.
>>
>>     Recently, at the insistence of the Audit Committee and our former
>>     Chair Geoff Neale, we instituted written contracts. Those have
>>     worked incredibly well in my opinion. They have eliminated most
>>     of the fights about whether nor not someone promised someone to
>>     cover some hotel or gas or rental car or not and the receipt is
>>     lost and on and on.
>>
>>     $2.50 per sig. No expenses. No hassles. It's a great deal. $2/sig
>>     is a little better (when it works).
>>
>>
>>     Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>     Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>     *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>     (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>>     wes.benedict at lp.org <mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>     facebook.com/libertarians <http://facebook.com/libertarians>
>>     @LPNational
>>     Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>>     On 12/9/2014 12:11 PM, William Redpath wrote:
>>>     Attached.  See you in New Orleans. Thanks, Bill Redpath
>>>
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