[Lnc-business] LNC Ballot Access Action Report

[Joshua Katz]

Understood.  We're thinking of using it here because we track validity
throughout the process anyway (by us, not the SOTS) in order to identify if
any petitioners or areas are low.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:

>  If there's someone local to manage it all, like in CT, and the process
> you described can work, I have no problem with it. Just want to be careful
> about imposing things on states that have unintended consequences.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
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>  On 12/9/2014 12:55 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>
> I think in some states you can get a definitive answer as to whether or
> not a signature is valid, like Virgina? However, I think in many, it's a
> case where internal validators (the Libertarian petition organizers) are
> making educated guesses as to whether or not a signature is valid before it
> is submitted to the state.
>
> In Texas in 2004, we collected over 80,000 signatures. I don't think we
> were ever told which ones were valid. Perhaps the info was available, but
> not until two or three months after the drive was over. In the intermediate
> time, one person in Houston had a group inspecting them. They were marking
> many of them invalid that I thought were probably valid. I had lots of
> arguments with the Houston people, and finally won. I didn't want them
> crossing off signatures that might be considered good by the state of
> Texas. And this had nothing to do with paying anyone commissions.
>
> There is significant value to dealing with petitioners who have a
> reputation of getting the job done with decent validity.
>
> I favor keeping the contracts simple, and would prefer a more expensive
> $2.50 flat rate with reliable petitioners, than a complicated process with
> cheaper per sig but much higher overhead.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
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>  On 12/9/2014 12:44 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>
> What about something like $1.00 per raw sig plus $2.00 per valid sig?
>
>  Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
>>  Here's a proposal to save money on ballot access.
>>
>> Instead of spending $2.50 per signature for most states most of the time,
>> look for opportunities to spend less where the risk is low and time to
>> experiment exits. You offer it at $2.00, and see if any reputable
>> petitioners come forward. Then get the drive done for $2/sig if they come
>> forward. If not, up the price. I wouldn't mess around with low-ball offers
>> like 50 cents, etc. You'll get lots of takers that won't actually get
>> anything done.
>>
>> By the way, I've also suggested the opposite direction, when the risk is
>> high, and time is short. Instead of spending $2/signature, I've suggested
>> spending $2.50 (so you don't end up with emergencies paying for flights,
>> hotels, etc.)
>>
>> Even if my suggestion is rejected, overall, I think we're getting great
>> deal on petitioning at $2.50.
>>
>> Recently, at the insistence of the Audit Committee and our former Chair
>> Geoff Neale, we instituted written contracts. Those have worked incredibly
>> well in my opinion. They have eliminated most of the fights about whether
>> nor not someone promised someone to cover some hotel or gas or rental car
>> or not and the receipt is lost and on and on.
>>
>> $2.50 per sig. No expenses. No hassles. It's a great deal. $2/sig is a
>> little better (when it works).
>>
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>> wes.benedict at lp.org
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>>  On 12/9/2014 12:11 PM, William Redpath wrote:
>>
>> Attached.  See you in New Orleans.  Thanks, Bill Redpath
>>
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