[Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter

[Joshua Katz]

While the language Dr. Lieberman pointed to has an element of moral muscle
flexing, and I can probably think of some times it would be objectionable
if I tried hard enough, it's actually far better than, for instance, the
Rothbard pledge.  There's a lot of room to maneuver tactically without
promoting or endorsing diminishment of individual liberty; far more so than
there would be if the restriction were 'increasing the size of government.'
 When I apply my usual examples of times libertarians should increase the
size of government, they all still pass this test, which makes me pretty
comfortable with it.

Not diminishing individual liberty is pretty much what we're about; size of
government, in my opinion, is a poor stand-in, so this is better.

What about making trades, logrolling, and so on?  Well, presumably you do
those things because the trade-off is worth it:  meaning the loss of
liberty in one area is more than counterbalanced by what you get.  I'd
argue that, so long as that's true, you didn't run afoul of this rule.

My question would be:  do we understand this agreement as applying to the
LPUS only, to the LPUS and affiliates, or all the way down to candidates?

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> Nicholas Sarwark
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 5:17 PM
> To: lnc-business
> Subject: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association
> ofLibertarian Parties charter
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> All,
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> I spoke with Geoff Neale earlier this week and he informed me that the
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> nascent International Association of Libertarian Parties has finalized
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> their charter and will be having an initial meeting in England on
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> March 5.  He would like us to ratify the charter and be a founding
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> member, rather than apply for membership later.  I have attached the
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> Proposed motion:
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> The Libertarian National Committee ratifies the charter of the
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> International Association of Libertarian Parties and seeks admission
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> to the the International Association of Libertarian Parties as a
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> founding member.
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