[Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter

[Tim Hagan]

The charter states that each Members shall designate a Representative to the Assembly. Do we want appointing Geoff Neale as the Representative to the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties to be part of this motion, or have a separate motion, assuming this motion passes? I'm fine with including the appointment with the motion to ratify the charter.

Tim Hagan
      From: Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
 To: "lnc-business at hq.lp.org" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter
   
Two updates:

1) I was reminded by Mr. Neale that it's an Alliance, not an
Association.  The motion will have that correction.

2) Dr. George Phillies has committed to donate $150 to cover the first
annual cost of joining (spot price of 3g of gold is approximately $120
as of today).

-Nick

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
> While the language Dr. Lieberman pointed to has an element of moral muscle
> flexing, and I can probably think of some times it would be objectionable if
> I tried hard enough, it's actually far better than, for instance, the
> Rothbard pledge.  There's a lot of room to maneuver tactically without
> promoting or endorsing diminishment of individual liberty; far more so than
> there would be if the restriction were 'increasing the size of government.'
> When I apply my usual examples of times libertarians should increase the
> size of government, they all still pass this test, which makes me pretty
> comfortable with it.
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> Not diminishing individual liberty is pretty much what we're about; size of
> government, in my opinion, is a poor stand-in, so this is better.
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> What about making trades, logrolling, and so on?  Well, presumably you do
> those things because the trade-off is worth it:  meaning the loss of liberty
> in one area is more than counterbalanced by what you get.  I'd argue that,
> so long as that's true, you didn't run afoul of this rule.
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> My question would be:  do we understand this agreement as applying to the
> LPUS only, to the LPUS and affiliates, or all the way down to candidates?
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> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
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> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> "IALP Founding Charter
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>> The part I made red above gives libertarian Radicals all over the world an
>> opportunity to use the IALP
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>> to macho flash.  That being said, I will not vote No on this motion just
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
>> Nicholas Sarwark
>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 5:17 PM
>> To: lnc-business
>> Subject: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association
>> ofLibertarian Parties charter
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>> All,
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>> I spoke with Geoff Neale earlier this week and he informed me that the
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>> nascent International Association of Libertarian Parties has finalized
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>> their charter and will be having an initial meeting in England on
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>> March 5.  He would like us to ratify the charter and be a founding
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>> member, rather than apply for membership later.  I have attached the
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>> charter and a proposed motion to this email and intend to start a mail
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>> ballot at the beginning of next week, but after discussions with the
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>> Secretary, agreed that the LNC should have a few days to
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>> discuss/digest it before the actual vote begins.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Nick
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>> Proposed motion:
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>> The Libertarian National Committee ratifies the charter of the
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>> International Association of Libertarian Parties and seeks admission
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>> to the the International Association of Libertarian Parties as a
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>> founding member.
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