[Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter

Mon Feb 9 00:09:19 EST 2015

I'm fine with reiterating the appointment of Geoff as part of the motion, since it's a reaffirmation of the will of the convention.

-Nick

> On Feb 8, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The charter states that each Members shall designate a Representative to the Assembly. Do we want appointing Geoff Neale as the Representative to the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties to be part of this motion, or have a separate motion, assuming this motion passes? I'm fine with including the appointment with the motion to ratify the charter.
> 
> Tim Hagan
> 
> From: Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
> To: "lnc-business at hq.lp.org" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter
> 
> Two updates:
> 
> 1) I was reminded by Mr. Neale that it's an Alliance, not an
> Association.  The motion will have that correction.
> 
> 2) Dr. George Phillies has committed to donate $150 to cover the first
> annual cost of joining (spot price of 3g of gold is approximately $120
> as of today).
> 
> -Nick
> 
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
> > While the language Dr. Lieberman pointed to has an element of moral muscle
> > flexing, and I can probably think of some times it would be objectionable if
> > I tried hard enough, it's actually far better than, for instance, the
> > Rothbard pledge.  There's a lot of room to maneuver tactically without
> > promoting or endorsing diminishment of individual liberty; far more so than
> > there would be if the restriction were 'increasing the size of government.'
> > When I apply my usual examples of times libertarians should increase the
> > size of government, they all still pass this test, which makes me pretty
> > comfortable with it.
> >
> > Not diminishing individual liberty is pretty much what we're about; size of
> > government, in my opinion, is a poor stand-in, so this is better.
> >
> > What about making trades, logrolling, and so on?  Well, presumably you do
> > those things because the trade-off is worth it:  meaning the loss of liberty
> > in one area is more than counterbalanced by what you get.  I'd argue that,
> > so long as that's true, you didn't run afoul of this rule.
> >
> > My question would be:  do we understand this agreement as applying to the
> > LPUS only, to the LPUS and affiliates, or all the way down to candidates?
> >
> > Joshua A. Katz
> > Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
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> >> "IALP Founding Charter
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> >> Article 2 – Separate and Distinct
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> >> 1.    The IALP is an organization separate and distinct from the myriad of
> >> libertarian organizations aimed at philosophical, economic, cultural,
> >> educational or any other non-political objective, and will strive to not
> >> compete or be seen as a competitor to such organizations."
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> >> I wish the United States Libertarian Party would obey the part I made red
> >> above.
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> >> “Article 3 – Members & Membership
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> >> 2. Membership in the IALP will be open to any established political party,
> >> or provisional party seeking recognized status, that engages in real
> >> political activities, and is essentially libertarian, and does not promote
> >> or endorse any diminishment of individual liberties.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The part I made red above gives libertarian Radicals all over the world an
> >> opportunity to use the IALP
> >>
> >> to macho flash.  That being said, I will not vote No on this motion just
> >> to object to that phrase.
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> >> “Article 3 – Members & Membership
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> >>  4. There shall be no limit on the number of Members from any country.”
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> >> Does this mean the LNC, Inc. will recognize the Reeves organization as an
> >> official Oregon affiliate of the
> >>
> >> United States Libertarian Party?
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> >>    Scott Lieberman
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> >> BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Nicholas Sarwark
> >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 5:17 PM
> >> To: lnc-business
> >> Subject: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association
> >> ofLibertarian Parties charter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I spoke with Geoff Neale earlier this week and he informed me that the
> >>
> >> nascent International Association of Libertarian Parties has finalized
> >>
> >> their charter and will be having an initial meeting in England on
> >>
> >> March 5.  He would like us to ratify the charter and be a founding
> >>
> >> member, rather than apply for membership later.  I have attached the
> >>
> >> charter and a proposed motion to this email and intend to start a mail
> >>
> >> ballot at the beginning of next week, but after discussions with the
> >>
> >> Secretary, agreed that the LNC should have a few days to
> >>
> >> discuss/digest it before the actual vote begins.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Proposed motion:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Libertarian National Committee ratifies the charter of the
> >>
> >> International Association of Libertarian Parties and seeks admission
> >>
> >> to the the International Association of Libertarian Parties as a
> >>
> >> founding member.
> >>
> >>
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