[Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association of Libertarian Parties charter

Mon Feb 9 22:33:22 EST 2015

Please note that the convention did not specify that Geoff Neale should be
"the" representative.  He is to be "a" representative to "begin
discussions" on the subject, but it did not direct that he be our official
representative to the organization once it is formed.  Geoff proposed, and
the LNC adopted a policy that allows us to have multiple International
Representatives, and we have appointed two so far.

Here is the verbatim wording of the resolution adopted at convention:

"Be it resolved that the assembled delegates of the 2014 Libertarian
National Convention hereby call for the creation of an International
Association of Libertarian Parties.

And whereas, our outgoing chair, Geoffrey Neale, has pursued this effort,
we recommend that he be appointed by the LNC as a representative to begin
discussions with our counterparts in other countries."

-Alicia

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Nicholas J. Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:

> I'm fine with reiterating the appointment of Geoff as part of the motion,
> since it's a reaffirmation of the will of the convention.
>
> -Nick
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The charter states that each Members shall designate a Representative to
> the Assembly. Do we want appointing Geoff Neale as the Representative to
> the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties to be part of this
> motion, or have a separate motion, assuming this motion passes? I'm fine
> with including the appointment with the motion to ratify the charter.
>
> Tim Hagan
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
> *To:* "lnc-business at hq.lp.org" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International
> Association of Libertarian Parties charter
>
> Two updates:
>
> 1) I was reminded by Mr. Neale that it's an Alliance, not an
> Association.  The motion will have that correction.
>
> 2) Dr. George Phillies has committed to donate $150 to cover the first
> annual cost of joining (spot price of 3g of gold is approximately $120
> as of today).
>
> -Nick
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > While the language Dr. Lieberman pointed to has an element of moral
> muscle
> > flexing, and I can probably think of some times it would be
> objectionable if
> > I tried hard enough, it's actually far better than, for instance, the
> > Rothbard pledge.  There's a lot of room to maneuver tactically without
> > promoting or endorsing diminishment of individual liberty; far more so
> than
> > there would be if the restriction were 'increasing the size of
> government.'
> > When I apply my usual examples of times libertarians should increase the
> > size of government, they all still pass this test, which makes me pretty
> > comfortable with it.
> >
> > Not diminishing individual liberty is pretty much what we're about; size
> of
> > government, in my opinion, is a poor stand-in, so this is better.
> >
> > What about making trades, logrolling, and so on?  Well, presumably you do
> > those things because the trade-off is worth it:  meaning the loss of
> liberty
> > in one area is more than counterbalanced by what you get.  I'd argue
> that,
> > so long as that's true, you didn't run afoul of this rule.
> >
> > My question would be:  do we understand this agreement as applying to the
> > LPUS only, to the LPUS and affiliates, or all the way down to candidates?
> >
> > Joshua A. Katz
> > Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "IALP Founding Charter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Article 2 – Separate and Distinct
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1.    The IALP is an organization separate and distinct from the myriad
> of
> >> libertarian organizations aimed at philosophical, economic, cultural,
> >> educational or any other non-political objective, and will strive to not
> >> compete or be seen as a competitor to such organizations."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I wish the United States Libertarian Party would obey the part I made
> red
> >> above.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> “Article 3 – Members & Membership
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2. Membership in the IALP will be open to any established political
> party,
> >> or provisional party seeking recognized status, that engages in real
> >> political activities, and is essentially libertarian, and does not
> promote
> >> or endorse any diminishment of individual liberties.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The part I made red above gives libertarian Radicals all over the world
> an
> >> opportunity to use the IALP
> >>
> >> to macho flash.  That being said, I will not vote No on this motion just
> >> to object to that phrase.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> “Article 3 – Members & Membership
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  4. There shall be no limit on the number of Members from any country.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does this mean the LNC, Inc. will recognize the Reeves organization as
> an
> >> official Oregon affiliate of the
> >>
> >> United States Libertarian Party?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Scott Lieberman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Nicholas Sarwark
> >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 5:17 PM
> >> To: lnc-business
> >> Subject: [Lnc-business] Ratification of the International Association
> >> ofLibertarian Parties charter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I spoke with Geoff Neale earlier this week and he informed me that the
> >>
> >> nascent International Association of Libertarian Parties has finalized
> >>
> >> their charter and will be having an initial meeting in England on
> >>
> >> March 5.  He would like us to ratify the charter and be a founding
> >>
> >> member, rather than apply for membership later.  I have attached the
> >>
> >> charter and a proposed motion to this email and intend to start a mail
> >>
> >> ballot at the beginning of next week, but after discussions with the
> >>
> >> Secretary, agreed that the LNC should have a few days to
> >>
> >> discuss/digest it before the actual vote begins.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Proposed motion:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Libertarian National Committee ratifies the charter of the
> >>
> >> International Association of Libertarian Parties and seeks admission
> >>
> >> to the the International Association of Libertarian Parties as a
> >>
> >> founding member.
> >>
> >>
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