[Lnc-business] Fall/Winter meeting dates and location

Tue Jun 16 17:22:28 EDT 2015

Availability is an issue, not just the room rate.  Reserving for a group is
different
from making individual reservations.  After Thanksgiving weekend, the Rosen
Centre has quite a few events scheduled and does not have the availability.

Vicki Kirkland
Region 2

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:06 PM, <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I am running for Indianapolis City Council and will also be very busy
> until Election Day.
>
> Sam Goldstein
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
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> *From:* Jim Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu>
> *Sent:* ‎Tuesday‎, ‎June‎ ‎16‎, ‎2015 ‎3‎:‎39‎ ‎PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> Dear colleagues:
>
>     I hope all is well with you.  Ms. Kirkland's message below suggests
> that I may not have explained well the second comment offered in my
> previous message.  Allow me to clarify the point I sought to make.
>
>     I have been aware since speaking to Ms. Kirkland several days ago that
> the Rosen Centre is offering a room rate of $95.00 per night for the Nov.
> 14-15 meeting date.  Mr. Sarwark's message indicated that after the Nov.
> 28-29 weekend, the hotel will be in holiday season; as a result, room rates
> will increase.  Thus, I was surprised to observe that the room rate quoted
> for Nov. 14-15 (before the holiday season begins) is higher than the rate
> for Dec. 12-13 (after the holiday season begins).
>
>     The fact that the website rate quoted for Nov. 14-15 is higher than
> that for Dec. 12-13 doesn't necessarily imply anything about the rates we
> shall be offered for a Dec. 12-13 meeting vis-a-vis the aforementioned
> $95.00 rate.  However, it suggests to me that before considering a motion
> in this matter, we should inquire whether the hotel will make us a similar
> offer ($95.00 or thereabouts) for a December meeting.
>
>      Unless the Rosen Centre doesn't have the necessary guest rooms or
> meeting space for Dec. 12-13, I would be very surprised if the hotel is
> unwilling to make us a similar offer for that date, especially given that
> we are holding our national convention there next year.  I don't believe
> the hotel will consider it impertinent of us to request formally a $95.00
> rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting.
>
>     Allow me to emphasize that I don't want to put anyone to great trouble
> and/or expense so that I can address libertarian student conferences in
> Europe.  If the LNC chooses the Nov. 14-15 meeting date after careful
> consideration of the situation, so be it.  However, before we make the
> choice, let us ensure that we have investigated the matter fully.
>
>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.  Again, I hope my
> comments are helpful to you.
>
>     Take care,
>     Jim
>
>     James W. Lark, III
>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>     University of Virginia
>
>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> -----
>
> On 6/16/2015 1:10 PM, Vicki Kirkland wrote:
>
>  We had the budget meeting in mid November in 2012, so it's not unheard
> of to
> have it in November.
> The rate they can give us for the weekend of November 14/15 is 95 dollars
> per night.
>
> Vicki Kirkland
> Region 2 Rep
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:56 PM, James Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues:
>>
>>     I hope all is well with you.  I greatly appreciate Mr. Sarwark
>> soliciting feedback concerning this matter before submitting a motion for
>> our consideration.  Allow me to share with you some comments about this
>> matter; I hope you find them helpful.
>>
>> 1)  The weekend of Nov. 14-15 is very bad for me, as I have been invited
>> to deliver an address to the European Students For Liberty conference in
>> Copenhagen, Denmark on Nov. 14.  In addition, since we shall consider the
>> 2016 budget during this meeting, I believe it would be better for us to
>> hold the meeting on Dec. 12-13 (or if necessary Dec. 5-6), as we would have
>> more information at our disposal in preparing the budget.
>>
>>     As a related point, the Executive Committee is responsible for
>> preparing the draft budget for consideration in advance of the LNC
>> meeting.  Holding our fall meeting on Nov. 14-15 would likely require the
>> EC to prepare the draft budget in later October.  At least two EC members
>> (Bill Redpath and I) will be very busy in October, as elections for the
>> Virginia General Assembly take place in November.  (Mr. Redpath and I serve
>> as chair and vice chair, respectively, of the Libertarian Party of
>> Virginia.)
>>
>> 2)  A few minutes ago I visited the Rosen Centre website to check on room
>> rates for Nov. 13-15 and for Dec. 11-13.  I was surprised to observe that
>> the rate for a "deluxe double room" was $194.00 for both Nov. 13 and Nov.
>> 14, whereas the rate for the same room on Dec. 11 and Dec. 12 was $173.00.
>>
>>     While the fact that rates on the website for a Nov. 14-15 meeting are
>> higher than rates for a Dec. 12-13 meeting doesn't imply the Rosen Centre
>> will give us the same room rates for the two meeting dates, it suggests to
>> me that we should make additional inquiries concerning rates for a Dec.
>> 12-13 meeting (and a Dec. 5-6 meeting) before any motion is considered.
>> Frankly, I would be very surprised if the Rosen Centre is unwilling to give
>> us the same rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting as long as rooms and meeting
>> space are available.
>>
>> 3)  I believe there is an additional benefit to holding the LNC meeting
>> on Dec. 12-13 that we should consider.  Specifically, the anniversary of
>> the founding of the LP takes place on Dec. 11. Perhaps we could hold a
>> Libertarian Party celebration/fundraiser on the evening of Friday, Dec. 11
>> at the hotel.  Indeed, assuming that there are no FEC (or State of Florida)
>> problems, we may be able to conduct a joint LP/LP Florida/LP local Orlando
>> organization celebration that evening.  In any event, we may be able to
>> organize some type of celebration at the hotel that provides an additional
>> incentive for the hotel to give us a favorable rate for a Dec. 12-13
>> meeting.
>>
>>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty; as always, thanks for
>> considering my comments.  I look forward to seeing you next month.
>>
>>     Take care,
>>     Jim
>>
>>     James W. Lark, III
>>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>>     University of Virginia
>>
>>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> -----
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/2015 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Vicki Kirkland has been in contact with the Rosen Centre, the site of
>>> our May 2016 convention, about the possibility of having an LNC
>>> meeting there in advance of the convention.  This would allow the many
>>> members of the committee (myself included) who have not been to the
>>> venue to see it prior to this coming May.
>>>
>>> In her discussions with the hotel, they have offered a $95/night room
>>> rate for the weekend of November 14-15, but indicated that the only
>>> weekends they could make that rate available would be that one and the
>>> weekend immediately following Thanksgiving (November 28-29).  After
>>> that point, the hotel is in holiday season and the rates go up.
>>>
>>> Before we have a mail ballot on the issue, I'd like to put it out to
>>> the list for a discussion of the pros and cons of the proposed date
>>> and venue versus any alternatives.
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
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