[Lnc-business] Fall/Winter meeting dates and location

Daniel Wiener wiener at alum.mit.edu
Tue Jun 16 18:42:21 EDT 2015 

Vicki,

It sounds like December 12-13 would be better for several LNC members.
It's not like the LNC is a very large group.  All we'd need is one
modest-sized room.  If the Rosen Centre doesn't have space, perhaps one of
the several other nearby Rosen properties might?  That would still give
everyone, especially recent LNC members, another opportunity to view the
convention location.

Dan Wiener

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Availability is an issue, not just the room rate.  Reserving for a group
> is different
> from making individual reservations.  After Thanksgiving weekend, the
> Rosen Centre has quite a few events scheduled and does not have the
> availability.
>
> Vicki Kirkland
> Region 2
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:06 PM, <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I am running for Indianapolis City Council and will also be very busy
>> until Election Day.
>>
>> Sam Goldstein
>>
>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>
>> *From:* Jim Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu>
>> *Sent:* ‎Tuesday‎, ‎June‎ ‎16‎, ‎2015 ‎3‎:‎39‎ ‎PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>
>> Dear colleagues:
>>
>>     I hope all is well with you.  Ms. Kirkland's message below suggests
>> that I may not have explained well the second comment offered in my
>> previous message.  Allow me to clarify the point I sought to make.
>>
>>     I have been aware since speaking to Ms. Kirkland several days ago
>> that the Rosen Centre is offering a room rate of $95.00 per night for the
>> Nov. 14-15 meeting date.  Mr. Sarwark's message indicated that after the
>> Nov. 28-29 weekend, the hotel will be in holiday season; as a result, room
>> rates will increase.  Thus, I was surprised to observe that the room rate
>> quoted for Nov. 14-15 (before the holiday season begins) is higher than the
>> rate for Dec. 12-13 (after the holiday season begins).
>>
>>     The fact that the website rate quoted for Nov. 14-15 is higher than
>> that for Dec. 12-13 doesn't necessarily imply anything about the rates we
>> shall be offered for a Dec. 12-13 meeting vis-a-vis the aforementioned
>> $95.00 rate.  However, it suggests to me that before considering a motion
>> in this matter, we should inquire whether the hotel will make us a similar
>> offer ($95.00 or thereabouts) for a December meeting.
>>
>>      Unless the Rosen Centre doesn't have the necessary guest rooms or
>> meeting space for Dec. 12-13, I would be very surprised if the hotel is
>> unwilling to make us a similar offer for that date, especially given that
>> we are holding our national convention there next year.  I don't believe
>> the hotel will consider it impertinent of us to request formally a $95.00
>> rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting.
>>
>>     Allow me to emphasize that I don't want to put anyone to great
>> trouble and/or expense so that I can address libertarian student
>> conferences in Europe.  If the LNC chooses the Nov. 14-15 meeting date
>> after careful consideration of the situation, so be it.  However, before we
>> make the choice, let us ensure that we have investigated the matter fully.
>>
>>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.  Again, I hope my
>> comments are helpful to you.
>>
>>     Take care,
>>     Jim
>>
>>     James W. Lark, III
>>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>>     University of Virginia
>>
>>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> -----
>>
>> On 6/16/2015 1:10 PM, Vicki Kirkland wrote:
>>
>>  We had the budget meeting in mid November in 2012, so it's not unheard
>> of to
>> have it in November.
>> The rate they can give us for the weekend of November 14/15 is 95 dollars
>> per night.
>>
>> Vicki Kirkland
>> Region 2 Rep
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:56 PM, James Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear colleagues:
>>>
>>>     I hope all is well with you.  I greatly appreciate Mr. Sarwark
>>> soliciting feedback concerning this matter before submitting a motion for
>>> our consideration.  Allow me to share with you some comments about this
>>> matter; I hope you find them helpful.
>>>
>>> 1)  The weekend of Nov. 14-15 is very bad for me, as I have been invited
>>> to deliver an address to the European Students For Liberty conference in
>>> Copenhagen, Denmark on Nov. 14.  In addition, since we shall consider the
>>> 2016 budget during this meeting, I believe it would be better for us to
>>> hold the meeting on Dec. 12-13 (or if necessary Dec. 5-6), as we would have
>>> more information at our disposal in preparing the budget.
>>>
>>>     As a related point, the Executive Committee is responsible for
>>> preparing the draft budget for consideration in advance of the LNC
>>> meeting.  Holding our fall meeting on Nov. 14-15 would likely require the
>>> EC to prepare the draft budget in later October.  At least two EC members
>>> (Bill Redpath and I) will be very busy in October, as elections for the
>>> Virginia General Assembly take place in November.  (Mr. Redpath and I serve
>>> as chair and vice chair, respectively, of the Libertarian Party of
>>> Virginia.)
>>>
>>> 2)  A few minutes ago I visited the Rosen Centre website to check on
>>> room rates for Nov. 13-15 and for Dec. 11-13.  I was surprised to observe
>>> that the rate for a "deluxe double room" was $194.00 for both Nov. 13 and
>>> Nov. 14, whereas the rate for the same room on Dec. 11 and Dec. 12 was
>>> $173.00.
>>>
>>>     While the fact that rates on the website for a Nov. 14-15 meeting
>>> are higher than rates for a Dec. 12-13 meeting doesn't imply the Rosen
>>> Centre will give us the same room rates for the two meeting dates, it
>>> suggests to me that we should make additional inquiries concerning rates
>>> for a Dec. 12-13 meeting (and a Dec. 5-6 meeting) before any motion is
>>> considered.  Frankly, I would be very surprised if the Rosen Centre is
>>> unwilling to give us the same rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting as long as
>>> rooms and meeting space are available.
>>>
>>> 3)  I believe there is an additional benefit to holding the LNC meeting
>>> on Dec. 12-13 that we should consider.  Specifically, the anniversary of
>>> the founding of the LP takes place on Dec. 11. Perhaps we could hold a
>>> Libertarian Party celebration/fundraiser on the evening of Friday, Dec. 11
>>> at the hotel.  Indeed, assuming that there are no FEC (or State of Florida)
>>> problems, we may be able to conduct a joint LP/LP Florida/LP local Orlando
>>> organization celebration that evening.  In any event, we may be able to
>>> organize some type of celebration at the hotel that provides an additional
>>> incentive for the hotel to give us a favorable rate for a Dec. 12-13
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty; as always, thanks for
>>> considering my comments.  I look forward to seeing you next month.
>>>
>>>     Take care,
>>>     Jim
>>>
>>>     James W. Lark, III
>>>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>>>     University of Virginia
>>>
>>>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> -----
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2015 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Vicki Kirkland has been in contact with the Rosen Centre, the site of
>>>> our May 2016 convention, about the possibility of having an LNC
>>>> meeting there in advance of the convention.  This would allow the many
>>>> members of the committee (myself included) who have not been to the
>>>> venue to see it prior to this coming May.
>>>>
>>>> In her discussions with the hotel, they have offered a $95/night room
>>>> rate for the weekend of November 14-15, but indicated that the only
>>>> weekends they could make that rate available would be that one and the
>>>> weekend immediately following Thanksgiving (November 28-29).  After
>>>> that point, the hotel is in holiday season and the rates go up.
>>>>
>>>> Before we have a mail ballot on the issue, I'd like to put it out to
>>>> the list for a discussion of the pros and cons of the proposed date
>>>> and venue versus any alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
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