[Lnc-business] first 2016 LNC meeting date and location?

Tue Oct 27 11:54:49 EDT 2015

Better yet,  we should just pick out the date and the city, and have a travel agent find us the least expensive and feasable place.   Why tie up dozens of man-hours of staff time when a travel agent could perform the task better, quicker and probably at less cost.
Roland ND
      From: Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net>
 To: 'lnc-business' <lnc-business at lp.org> 
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] first 2016 LNC meeting date and location?

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The average daily rate for hotels in the USA as of two months ago was  $123per night:         http://www.statista.com/statistics/208133/us-hotel-revenue-per-available-room-by-month/       I don’t feellike looking at my credit card bills for the past year, but I would estimatethat the average daily rate the LNC has paid for hotel rooms for LNC Sessionsduring this term has averaged around $115 per night, excluding taxes.  Andmost of the time we have obtained either a truly “free” breakfast,or at least a continental breakfast which was used as part of the food andbeverage requirement to waive the room rental fee.    The only place youwill find $40 to $60 room rates is discount hotels in small towns that don’thave nearby, usable airports, or really run-downmotels in big cities.  Neither of these types of hotels tend to havemeeting rooms that are large enough for our purposes.       Just for the hell ofit, this is what a superficial look at Google yields for North Dakota :       
SearchResults
    $116 Residence Inn Fargo    3-star hotel ·  23rd Ave S Modern extended-stay lodging with fully equippedkitchens, plus free breakfast, parking & WiFi. Free Wi-FiFree breakfast       $98 Fairfield Inn & Suites Fargo    2-star hotel ·  9th Ave S Laid-back hotel with relaxed rooms & suites, plusan indoor pool & free continental breakfast. Free Wi-FiFree breakfast       $89 Courtyard by Marriott Fargo Moorhead    3-star hotel ·  28th Ave S Roadside hotel with contemporary rooms & 2 indoorpools, plus a 24/7 business center & free WiFi. Free Wi-Fi       I have no idea how theabove rates correspond to the rate we can get for an LNC Session at thosehotels, nor if the above hotels have suitable meeting rooms,  but as youcan see below, the local airport does not have a huge number of non-stopflights:    
|  Fargo, ND        Airlines  |  Destinations  |
|  Allegiant Air  |  Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Orlando/Sanford, Phoenix/Mesa
 Seasonal: St. Petersburg/Clearwater  |
|  American Eagle  |  Chicago-O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth  |
|  Delta Air Lines  |  Minneapolis/St. Paul  |
|  Delta Connection  |  Minneapolis/St. Paul  |
|  United Express  |  Chicago-O'Hare, Denver  |

         I don’t have anytrouble trusting my life to Southwest or the other major airlines.  All ofthe airlines listed above, except for Delta, use pilots that probably makearound $40,000 per year.  No thank you.    I should add that Fargo is the largest cityin ND.    In other words –our current system for LNC Sessions might not be ideal, but it is probably thebest compromise in terms of hotel guest room cost,airline cost, and having a reasonably comfortable meeting room.       ScottLieberman          

From: Lnc-business[mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] OnBehalf Of Roland Riemers
Sent: Monday, October 26, 20158:02 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] first2016 LNC meeting date and location?    Icare less really where or when we meet, as I am committed to be thereregardless.  But would like at a location with cheap air fares,  lotsof flights,  a cheap hotels ($40-$60 and not $140-$260),  areasonable sized and cheap room to meet in,  a location with a freeshuttle from the airport,   and naturally a free breakfast in the morning.  If not that,  just come to my house in ND and we can meet for freein my basement.    RolandND    From: Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 201511:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] first2016 LNC meeting date and location?    After reading some of the discussion on this list, I'm thinkingFebruary 20, or March 5 would be the best dates, and either Los Angeles or Indianapolis would be preferred locations.

I don't make these decisions--I'm just trying to facilitate the discussion so Ican make educated guesses.

We're trying to plan our next training event, and I'll encourage February 6 or13 for the training event.  We're leaning towards the West Coast for this.

My history of correctly guessing the weekend and location of LNC meetings hasbeen pretty poor lately--so keep that in mind before making decisions based onwhat I'm thinking. 

 Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
New address: 1444 Duke St. , Alexandria , VA 22314
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Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership    On10/23/2015 6:38 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: Ifyou want to propose dates and possible locations in advance of the next LNCmeeting for a February or March LNC meeting, feel free to make suggestions toconsider in advance.

Robert Kraus and I have occasionally proposed dates and locations, only to bemet with derision and scorn for conflicting with certain sports events.

A list of 2016 state conventions is here: https://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/2016-state-conventions

Staff is considering the possibility of another training session, possibly inFebruary, and while we would probably attempt to avoid the LNC meeting, that'snot 100% required. 

We'd like to announce the date and location in the upcoming LP New if possible.

Thanks, -- 
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
New address: 1444 Duke St. , Alexandria     
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