[Lnc-business] website motion

Thu Feb 18 15:29:29 EST 2016

Kevin,

I appreciate your initiative in driving this topic, and I agree
wholeheartedly that the site needs more than a facelift. It needs a
complete re-design. I had a similar design (done by the same firm that
built the bones of what we're using today at LP.org about the same time)
when I was the Executive Director in Georgia, and that site transitioned to
a better, more engaging, and easier to use tool for LP Georgia in 2013.
<--- That's three years ago.

Whether we use NationBuilder or another Content Management System (CMS), I
think our investment in getting a quality product is worth it. It's not
like we're building a website for mom's knitting hobby here. We need
something that is professional in appearance and can offer the
functionality necessary to make the connections with staff, CRM, and users
more efficient.

My only concern is our cash flow position. I hope that the "Sky is falling"
rhetoric I've seen regarding it is just that. If not, we may need to
examine our priorities with regard to how the money we have on hand and
expect to bring in is spent. I only bring this up because I've seen the
Chicken Littles scurrying about with the information, yet I've not had the
opportunity to discuss with Tim the financial picture and questions that I
have. I intend to in Phoenix.

Thank you for taking the lead here, and I look forward to the end result.

Brett C. Bittner

brett at brettbittner.com
404.492.6524

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
than those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> No.  I have gone out of my way to try and minimize the cost as best I
> can.  For an organization like ours to spend only $20,000 on a website is
> already beyond ridiculous.  Did I not mention that local theater company I
> work with that I pointed you to spent $15,000 on theirs.  They put on
> occasional avant-garde shows; we nominate the president of the united
> states.  I guess it's about the same thing.
>
> Frankly, I'm a little insulted that I gave a detailed reality about the
> cost of this kind of work, have heard nothing back, and now the request is
> "how do we get equal value for lower cost?".  We don't.  I provided
> real-world numbers.  I wouldn't be able to pay my newest 24 year old
> employee over $100k/annually if this work didn't cost a lot.  It costs a
> lot because there is a great deal of work that goes into doing it right.
> Maybe you could point me to a place where I can get an x-ray taken for a
> grand total of $10.
>
> When you do it on the cheap, it looks like it's done on the cheap.  It
> misses the point of having it done in the first place.  I guess it would at
> least be consistent, but I was really hoping our group wanted to change the
> glaring hole.
>
> On that note though, if the pulse on the group is just to do it cheaper
> than it would really help me out if people would just say that.  I'm
> putting in time making calls, ensuring that I have firms lined up, ensuring
> they have designers ready to go, etc.  I would really prefer not to spend
> my time doing all of that if the effort is just to do it cheaper or not at
> all.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like to know if NationBuilder has "in-house" designers that could
>> design an equal quality web site at a lower cost.
>>
>> In other words - would having NB or "NB approved" designers make the
>> interfacing between the web site and NB easier and/or less expensive?
>>
>>    Scott Lieberman
>>
>>
>> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Ludlow
>> Sent: Feb 18, 2016 10:11 AM
>> To: lnc-business
>> Subject: [Lnc-business] website motion
>>
>> All:
>>
>> I've only heard back from 2 people with respect to me putting the website
>> redesign into high gear.  It would be a combination of getting a proper
>> design from a high-end design firm and then having it implemented into NB
>> by the NB team.
>>
>> Could everyone give me an idea of where they sit with this idea in
>> general.  Are there concerns?  Are there impasses I'm unaware of?  Do we
>> just not think the website needs an overhaul?  Does it require more
>> discussion?
>>
>> -Kevin Ludlow
>>
>>
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