[Lnc-business] website motion

Thu Feb 18 15:44:29 EST 2016

I'm open to a redesign, as long as we have a clear sense of what our
requirements are and an open process for soliciting bids to do the
work.

That doesn't need to be a long or complicated process, but it does
need to be an open one.

-Nick

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Brett Bittner <brett at brettbittner.com> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> I appreciate your initiative in driving this topic, and I agree
> wholeheartedly that the site needs more than a facelift. It needs a complete
> re-design. I had a similar design (done by the same firm that built the
> bones of what we're using today at LP.org about the same time) when I was
> the Executive Director in Georgia, and that site transitioned to a better,
> more engaging, and easier to use tool for LP Georgia in 2013. <--- That's
> three years ago.
>
> Whether we use NationBuilder or another Content Management System (CMS), I
> think our investment in getting a quality product is worth it. It's not like
> we're building a website for mom's knitting hobby here. We need something
> that is professional in appearance and can offer the functionality necessary
> to make the connections with staff, CRM, and users more efficient.
>
> My only concern is our cash flow position. I hope that the "Sky is falling"
> rhetoric I've seen regarding it is just that. If not, we may need to examine
> our priorities with regard to how the money we have on hand and expect to
> bring in is spent. I only bring this up because I've seen the Chicken
> Littles scurrying about with the information, yet I've not had the
> opportunity to discuss with Tim the financial picture and questions that I
> have. I intend to in Phoenix.
>
> Thank you for taking the lead here, and I look forward to the end result.
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
> brett at brettbittner.com
> 404.492.6524
>
> "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
> than those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> No.  I have gone out of my way to try and minimize the cost as best I can.
>> For an organization like ours to spend only $20,000 on a website is already
>> beyond ridiculous.  Did I not mention that local theater company I work with
>> that I pointed you to spent $15,000 on theirs.  They put on occasional
>> avant-garde shows; we nominate the president of the united states.  I guess
>> it's about the same thing.
>>
>> Frankly, I'm a little insulted that I gave a detailed reality about the
>> cost of this kind of work, have heard nothing back, and now the request is
>> "how do we get equal value for lower cost?".  We don't.  I provided
>> real-world numbers.  I wouldn't be able to pay my newest 24 year old
>> employee over $100k/annually if this work didn't cost a lot.  It costs a lot
>> because there is a great deal of work that goes into doing it right.  Maybe
>> you could point me to a place where I can get an x-ray taken for a grand
>> total of $10.
>>
>> When you do it on the cheap, it looks like it's done on the cheap.  It
>> misses the point of having it done in the first place.  I guess it would at
>> least be consistent, but I was really hoping our group wanted to change the
>> glaring hole.
>>
>> On that note though, if the pulse on the group is just to do it cheaper
>> than it would really help me out if people would just say that.  I'm putting
>> in time making calls, ensuring that I have firms lined up, ensuring they
>> have designers ready to go, etc.  I would really prefer not to spend my time
>> doing all of that if the effort is just to do it cheaper or not at all.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to know if NationBuilder has "in-house" designers that could
>>> design an equal quality web site at a lower cost.
>>>
>>> In other words - would having NB or "NB approved" designers make the
>>> interfacing between the web site and NB easier and/or less expensive?
>>>
>>>    Scott Lieberman
>>>
>>>
>>> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kevin Ludlow
>>> Sent: Feb 18, 2016 10:11 AM
>>> To: lnc-business
>>> Subject: [Lnc-business] website motion
>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> I've only heard back from 2 people with respect to me putting the website
>>> redesign into high gear.  It would be a combination of getting a proper
>>> design from a high-end design firm and then having it implemented into NB by
>>> the NB team.
>>>
>>> Could everyone give me an idea of where they sit with this idea in
>>> general.  Are there concerns?  Are there impasses I'm unaware of?  Do we
>>> just not think the website needs an overhaul?  Does it require more
>>> discussion?
>>>
>>> -Kevin Ludlow
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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