[Lnc-business] LIBERTARIAN PARTY POST-LIFE MEMBERSHIPS
Wes Benedict
wes.benedict at lp.org
Fri Apr 1 18:01:34 EDT 2016
We should have Egg and Sperm memberships as well.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
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On 4/1/2016 5:53 PM, Roland Riemers wrote:
> I believe any lawyer would tell you the deceased member looses all
> legal rights and identity, and therefore would have to submit a new
> membership application.
>
> In the interest of fairness though, I would suggest we allow returning
> member a 50% discount.
>
> Roland Riemers ND
>
>
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> *From:* Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 1:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LIBERTARIAN PARTY POST-LIFE MEMBERSHIPS
>
> Yes that makes perfect sense and I just talked to our Blackbaud Rep
> and of course they have a plug in for Raiser’s Edge that can handle
> these types of memberships so no problem!
> Live Free!
> /*/Robert/*/*/
>
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> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Daniel Wiener
> *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 2:36 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LIBERTARIAN PARTY POST-LIFE MEMBERSHIPS
> Robert, there is a simple solution. I believe that "resurrection"
> should be treated as the functional equivalent of a successful revival
> from cryogenic storage. As such the resurrected person (irrespective
> of his or her potential divinity) would be recategorized as “un-dead”
> and the Post-Life Membership would be suspended until such time as
> that person/divinity later re-died. The important take-away is that
> anyone categorized as "undead" would have to purchase a regular LP
> membership in order to be listed as a sustaining member, unless that
> person/divinity was already a life member.
> Dan Wiener
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org
> <mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org>> wrote:
> I know I am speaking out of turn as a staff member on this important
> issue under consideration, but being it was just Eater I am concerned
> about what happens if someone is “resurrected”?
> Does a “post-life” member automatically become a current life member
> or do they need to re-join?
> I am also not sure our data base can handle that type of membership so
> I would request that the LNC vote to assign a committee to look into
> hiring a professional outside contractor to create a specialized multi
> dimensional database that would work in an environment where the past
> could also be the future. Perhaps the re-membership committee can work
> with the IT committee on this? Staff would really like clarification
> especially since we already have had several folks inquire about this.
> Live Free!
> /*/Robert/*/
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> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Joshua Katz
> *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 1:17 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LIBERTARIAN PARTY POST-LIFE MEMBERSHIPS
> While I like this in principle, I have some concerns in practice. In
> only one state ( Illinois ), deceased people frequently vote. In a few
> other states, they do so on an irregular basis, and in many states,
> only currently live people are permitted to vote. This may give
> unfair advantages to some affiliates at the expense of others.
> Furthermore, in my state of Connecticut , some towns and Congressional
> districts have affiliates, while others used to have affiliates. The
> latter affiliates are sometimes said to have died. Would post-live
> members be organized into dead affiliates? Along those lines, what
> impact would post-life memberships have on the delegate allocation
> algorithm?
> As I said, though, I like the idea, and I prefer to offer some
> alternatives rather than a blanket dismissal. I would suggest that
> some of these problems can be ameliorated by adopting, instead, a plan
> I call the "it's complicated" plan. Under this plan, all post-life
> memberships and pre-life memberships, which are called "complex
> memberships," would cost $33,400i and will run from the day of
> adoption of the plan until the date of birth of the post-life member.
> I believe we should market this plan beginning today, and running
> until the 2012 Presidential election.
> Joshua Katz
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu
> <mailto:wiener at alum.mit.edu>> wrote:
> LIBERTARIAN PARTY POST-LIFE MEMBERSHIPS
> *EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: */When the Libertarian Party raised the price of
> Life Memberships from $1,000 to $1,500 in 2014, there was a one-time
> spike in the purchase of Life Memberships to beat the deadline, which
> resulted in a revenue windfall of tens of thousands of dollars. That
> bump suggested that other extended-period memberships might be equally
> profitable. Accordingly, the Re-Membership Committee was formed to
> consider out-of-the-box options to the existing Libertarian Party dues
> structure. Our committee was tasked with presenting its
> recommendations in time for the 2016 national convention to consider
> them. This is our committee’s report./
> The Libertarian Party’s membership structure currently consists of
> non-dues-paying members who have signed the non-initiation-of-force
> pledge; sustaining members who have paid at least $25 per year; and
> life members who have paid $1,500 (or more in some cases, for higher
> honorary levels). But each life membership ends by definition with
> that person’s death. What happens afterwards? In rare cases
> supporters have left bequests for the LP in their wills, but that is
> an unpredictable and undependable source of revenue. Furthermore, it
> provides little direct benefit to the donor after his or her death,
> and only hypothetical benefit for the furtherance of libertarian
> values which the donor will never actually see.
> We propose to solve this problem by offering Post-Life Memberships in
> the Libertarian Party, which will be pre-paid but take effect only
> after a person’s death, thus filling a currently under-served donor
> niche. Establishing a much freer society for our nation and indeed the
> entire world is a life-and-death matter and should be treated that
> way. By purchasing a Post-Life Membership, a person’s association
> with the LP will transcend that artificial boundary, and will
> represent an enduring legacy.
> Suggested Post-Life Membership levels would be as follows:
>
> * *Libertarian Party Angel -- $3,000*. This would be a
> limited-period post-life membership which would only extend until
> the year 3,000.
>
> * *Libertarian Party Archangel -- $33,400.* This is an unlimited
> post-life membership, with the amount indexed to the FEC’s maximum
> annual contribution limit.
>
> * *Libertarian Party Heavenly Inhabitor -- $100,200.* This is a
> specialized post-life membership aimed at Libertarians who are
> focused on where they will dwell in the after-life. It represents
> the maximum annual amount which the FEC says can be contributed to
> the LP Building Fund, and will also be indexed to that
> contribution limit.
>
> * *Libertarian Party Lucifer -- $1,000,000 and up.* This is an
> unrestricted post-life membership for Libertarians who refuse to
> be bound in either life or death by arbitrary rules and standards,
> and are willing to brave the consequences (whatever they may be)
> in the cause of freedom.
>
> All Post-Life Members will be sent electronic copies of the /LP News/
> to their last known email addresses, and their estates will continue
> to receive the same email fundraising pitches as all other LP members.
> Their names will be placed on plaques in the LP office and
> memorialized at the next national convention, and they will continue
> to pad the Libertarian Party’s membership rolls just as Life Members do.
> (As a side note, we believe that libertarians who have been placed in
> cryogenic storage should still be able to qualify for Post-Life
> Memberships. When they are successfully revived, they would then be
> categorized as “un-dead” and their Post-Life Memberships would be
> suspended until such time as they later re-died.)
> The Re-Membership Committee is optimistic that a test mailing targeted
> to older sustaining members and especially to current Life Members
> could produce exceptionally lucrative results. We urge that this be
> done as rapidly as possible, since time is of the essence before more
> of this demographic passes away.
> This report is hereby submitted on behalf of the Re-Membership
> Committee this day of April 1, 2016 by Daniel Wiener, Chair, who
> wishes to express his appreciation to the rest of the Committee,
> especially Aaron Starr, Alicia Mattson, and David Nolan (deceased).
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> Daniel Wiener, Re-Membership Chair
> P.S. While we had originally intended to include Pre-Life LP
> memberships with the Post-Life proposals, our committee has been
> unable to complete that portion by the April 1^st target date. Several
> complex issues remain to be resolved, such as whether the Pre-Life
> memberships would apply prior to conception between the sperm and the
> egg, or prior to actual birth? Also, in the case of a miscarriage,
> would the parents be entitled to a full refund or a pro-rata refund
> based on the fraction of nine months? And how would unexpected
> multiple births be handled? For example, are twins each entitled to
> half of a Pre-Life membership, or must parents buy an extra one?
> These represent difficult philosophical questions upon which
> libertarians can reasonably disagree.
>
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