[Lnc-business] Policy Manual - Regional Representatives
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Mon Jun 27 00:44:46 EDT 2016
Very interesting information on California, thank you.
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative
(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
*PS: remember, please sign your emails... the sender information is often
unclear when this goes to the public list, and the members can have a hard
time keeping track of who said what, and they deserve to know.*
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
wrote:
> This re-work again isn't necessarily accurate, either. California is big
> enough to be its own region, and their bylaws don't give the State Chair
> the power to replace their region rep. They are elected at the state
> convention, with the ExComm empowered to make a change, but not the state
> chair unilaterally.
>
> This language isn't a policy. Policies give specific directions about how
> to do a job, describe limitations on authority, etc. This uses a lot of
> words to say the region reps communicate between the LNC and the region.
> If that basic part isn't intuitive to anyone seeking the job, I don't know
> what to say.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I note that the Bylaws state,
>>
>> *Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once every two years
>> during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and ending on
>> the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations or
>> dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to
>> the close of the Convention at which they take place. *
>>
>> So there is something that must be reduced to writing, even if it is just
>> "hey we're a region now." But I see that my proposed change to David's
>> proposal does make it seem like something much more formal is required. So
>> I would change my wording to:
>>
>> LNC Regional Representatives and Alternates who serve at the pleasure of
>> the State Chairs of the affiliates comprising their Region or as specified
>> in the Region Formation Agreement if any, are encouraged to provide a
>> transparent channel that facilitates mutually supportive communication
>> between the LNC and Officers and members of the regional state affiliates.
>> Actual regional organization policies and additional duties are left to the
>> discretion of and agreement between the member state chairs and their
>> Regional Representatives and Alternates.
>>
>> and for clarification, I don't think David is proposing a motion... he is
>> seeking discussion which may lead to a motion, but I think more airing out
>> an issue that exists.
>>
>>
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington)
>>
>> *PS: remember, please sign your emails... the sender information is often
>> unclear when this goes to the public list, and the members can have a hard
>> time keeping track of who said what, and they deserve to know.*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the clarification.
>>>
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Region 1 Representative
>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington)
>>>
>>> *PS: remember, please sign your emails... the sender information is
>>> often unclear when this goes to the public list, and the members can have a
>>> hard time keeping track of who said what, and they deserve to know.*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Delegation Chair's Manual says:
>>>>
>>>> "Some regions opt to use regional formation agreements to document
>>>> mutually agreed upon rules for their region before any future disputes
>>>> arise. A recommended basic regional agreement is included at the end
>>>> of this document, though you are not required to use this particular one or
>>>> any one at all."
>>>>
>>>> This motion suggests that each region has one, and it includes
>>>> information beyond just "We're a region!"
>>>>
>>>> -Alicia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alicia, it was my understanding from the Delegate Chair Manual that
>>>>> every region does have to sign a region formation agreement, even if it was
>>>>> something as simple as "We're a region!" - that would be the agreement.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>
>>>>> *PS: remember, please sign your emails... the sender information is
>>>>> often unclear when this goes to the public list, and the members can have a
>>>>> hard time keeping track of who said what, and they deserve to know.*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Ken here in terms of how useful this would be. If
>>>>>> someone isn't going to read the bylaws and see how the region reps work,
>>>>>> why would they read the policy manual to see someone else's attempt to
>>>>>> describe what's in the bylaws? I don't see this as solving the described
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also would quibble with some of the language. For example, not
>>>>>> every region has a region formation agreement, though this language
>>>>>> suggests they do. Some merely sign a piece of paper saying "We're a
>>>>>> region!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As designed and codified in the bylaws today, the regions are
>>>>>>> autonomous, and have the right to determine their own reps as they see fit
>>>>>>> (by mutual agreement, or otherwise by the state chairs by default). The
>>>>>>> Region Representative represents the region. They serve the region at their
>>>>>>> leisure. This is already codified in the bylaws. I don't see a reason to
>>>>>>> reiterate this any further in other documents. I would suggest that it
>>>>>>> would only clutter the already-lengthy document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 2014, I suggested reorganizing regions based on Federal Court
>>>>>>> districts, with multiple districts in each region to make the national
>>>>>>> membership numbers in each region almost equal. The goal of this approach
>>>>>>> was to foster communication between states in the same federal court
>>>>>>> circuits, since Court of Appeals ruling effect every state in the
>>>>>>> district. This never gained traction for multiple reasons, the largest of
>>>>>>> which seemed to be protecting silly fiefdoms. I've personally moved on to
>>>>>>> build those relationships outside of the Region Reps. I introduced LPKY's
>>>>>>> attorney to the counsel for LPTN and LPMI at the national convention, and
>>>>>>> LPKY's attorney has now worked with LPO's attorney.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do think we should consider reducing the number of regions and
>>>>>>> at-large positions by 1, keeping a balance between those elected by the
>>>>>>> entire body and those elected from districts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just my $0.02 on the matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2016-06-26 13:36, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a problem. Whether this is a solution or not is another
>>>>>>> matter, but I think it certainly adds clarity. We must remember that the
>>>>>>> Policy Manual isn't *only* for the LNC but for the members to *understand*
>>>>>>> the LNC. I read it when I was a new member (no wisecracks Sam!). Now I
>>>>>>> realize I am an aberration in my zeal to read our documents but that is in
>>>>>>> fact another purpose of it. Most members have zero idea they even have a
>>>>>>> regional representative, and in fact, what use such a person is. Perhaps
>>>>>>> the un-regioned (made that word up) states would be more likely to join a
>>>>>>> region if they saw the value and the value was made a part of the record.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is definitely a problem because there are regional
>>>>>>> representatives who come in going now what? I found myself in a different
>>>>>>> position in that I was already entrenched as a non-LNC member in the goings
>>>>>>> on, attending and writing about meetings, reading the lists etc, and did an
>>>>>>> active campaign for the position that I decided on well in advance. But
>>>>>>> oftentimes (whether this is good or not is another issue) regional
>>>>>>> representatives are chosen and decided at the region meeting with little
>>>>>>> prior intent. Either no one campaigned, or someone decides they don't like
>>>>>>> the choices, and heck, better step up. Whatever the reason, we find
>>>>>>> ourselves with absolutely no guidance on what the heck it is we are
>>>>>>> supposed to do. The fact is, I just took it upon myself to start doing
>>>>>>> things and interfacing with my region in ways I thought were a good idea,
>>>>>>> but it would be great to know what has been learned from the past.
>>>>>>> Again.... institutional knowledge, we are terrible at it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *PS: remember, please sign your emails... the sender information is
>>>>>>> often unclear when this goes to the public list, and the members can have a
>>>>>>> hard time keeping track of who said what, and they deserve to know.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Demarest <
>>>>>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am good with Caryn's suggested revision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Others?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *David Demarest
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:04 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Policy Manual - Regional
>>>>>>>> Representatives
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Caryn. I have pasted in the previous responses for
>>>>>>>> background information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:45 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Policy Manual - Regional Representatives
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am starting this new chain for the discussion on David's proposal
>>>>>>>> to add a section to the Policy Manual on Regional Representatives. This
>>>>>>>> was David's initial working proposal as a starting point:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LNC regional representatives and alternates who serve at the
>>>>>>>> pleasure of the region member state chairs are encouraged to provide a
>>>>>>>> transparent channel that facilitates mutually supportive communication
>>>>>>>> between the LNC and officers and members of the regional state
>>>>>>>> organizations. Actual regional organization policies are left to the
>>>>>>>> discretion of and agreement between the member state chairs and their
>>>>>>>> regional representatives and alternates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest this change:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LNC Regional Representatives and Alternates who serve at the
>>>>>>>> pleasure of their Region, as specified in the Region Formation
>>>>>>>> Agreement, are encouraged to provide a transparent channel that facilitates
>>>>>>>> mutually supportive communication between the LNC and Officers and members
>>>>>>>> of the regional state affiliates. Actual regional organization policies and
>>>>>>>> additional duties are left to the discretion of and agreement between the
>>>>>>>> member state chairs and their Regional Representatives and Alternates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Caryn. Can you provide an alternative example and how we
>>>>>>>> might modify the proposed statement to address that alternative?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The Invisible Hand of Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of
>>>>>>>> Government!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* david.demarest at firstdata.com; David Demarest <
>>>>>>>> secretary at lpne.org>; lnc-business <lnc-business at lp.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] details for electronic mail ballots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I was thinking- a policy manual section.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David also, not all reps serve at the pleasure of the state chairs-
>>>>>>>> that is the default. The region agreement can specify otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* David Demarest [mailto:secretary at lpne.org
>>>>>>>> <secretary at lpne.org>]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:13 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* 'Sam Goldstein' <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>; '
>>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org' <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* 'lnc-business' <lnc-business at lp.org>; '
>>>>>>>> david.demarest at firstdata.com' <david.demarest at firstdata.com>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Lnc-business] details for electronic mail ballots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam – makes sense to put it in the policy manual. What is
>>>>>>>> the procedure to get a Regional Representative responsibilities statement
>>>>>>>> added to the policy manual?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, the original idea for the following suggested policy
>>>>>>>> statement came from the fertile mind of Brett Bittner, Region 3
>>>>>>>> Representative. Thanks Brett!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LNC regional representatives and alternates who serve at the
>>>>>>>> pleasure of the region member state chairs are encouraged to provide a
>>>>>>>> transparent channel that facilitates mutually supportive communication
>>>>>>>> between the LNC and officers and members of the regional state
>>>>>>>> organizations. Actual regional organization policies are left to the
>>>>>>>> discretion of and agreement between the member state chairs and their
>>>>>>>> regional representatives and alternates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any suggested revisions to the above text?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The Invisible Hand of Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of
>>>>>>>> Government!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* david.demarest at firstdata.com; lnc-business <
>>>>>>>> lnc-business at lp.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] details for electronic mail ballots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David, can you start a new thread with the right title? This is
>>>>>>>> still under "electronic email ballot" and will be impossible to find in the
>>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, David Demarest <
>>>>>>>> secretary at lpne.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam – makes sense to put it in the policy manual. What is
>>>>>>>> the procedure to get a Regional Representative responsibilities statement
>>>>>>>> added to the policy manual?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, the original idea for the following suggested policy
>>>>>>>> statement came from the fertile mind of Brett Bittner, Region 3
>>>>>>>> Representative. Thanks Brett!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LNC regional representatives and alternates who serve at the
>>>>>>>> pleasure of the region member state chairs are encouraged to provide a
>>>>>>>> transparent channel that facilitates mutually supportive communication
>>>>>>>> between the LNC and officers and members of the regional state
>>>>>>>> organizations. Actual regional organization policies are left to the
>>>>>>>> discretion of and agreement between the member state chairs and their
>>>>>>>> regional representatives and alternates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any suggested revisions to the above text?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The Invisible Hand of Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of
>>>>>>>> Government!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.LPNE.org <http://www.lpne.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cell: 402-981-6469
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Home: 402-493-0873
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Office: 402-222-7207
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Goldstein [mailto:goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:37 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* lnc-business <lnc-business at lp.org>;
>>>>>>>> david.demarest at firstdata.com; David Demarest <secretary at lpne.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] details for electronic mail ballots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The LNC has no power to change the By-Laws, only the delegates in
>>>>>>>> convention. The LNC can amend the Policy Manual so it might be best to
>>>>>>>> look for a place to insert your suggested Regional Representative
>>>>>>>> responsiblities language in that document. There are very few mentions of
>>>>>>>> Regional Reps in the current language and the only responsibility outlined
>>>>>>>> is the Regional Report to be submitted prior to every LNC meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having a definition inserted in the Policy Manual would help future
>>>>>>>> newbies in determining their role and might encourage more people to seed a
>>>>>>>> spot from their region.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Live Free,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 9:33 AM, David Demarest <
>>>>>>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alicia – Thank you for very clear and unambiguous instructions and
>>>>>>>> procedures on LNC email balloting – very helpful to us newcomers on the
>>>>>>>> board!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a similar but separate subject, at your convenience when your
>>>>>>>> schedule is not so crazy, I would appreciate receiving similar instructions
>>>>>>>> and procedures excerpted from the bylaws or elsewhere in LNC documentation
>>>>>>>> that clearly delineates the roles and responsibilities of regional
>>>>>>>> representatives and their alternates. With Caryn Ann Harlos' help, I see
>>>>>>>> some of region structure mechanical details. However, I have not been able
>>>>>>>> to locate any LNC documentation that spells out regional representative and
>>>>>>>> alternate roles and responsibilities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann and I have discussed a possible default description of
>>>>>>>> regional representative and alternate roles and responsibilities. I submit
>>>>>>>> the following for discussion:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LNC regional representatives and alternates who serve at the
>>>>>>>> pleasure of the region member state chairs are encouraged to provide a
>>>>>>>> transparent channel that facilitates mutually supportive communication
>>>>>>>> between the LNC and officers and members of the regional state
>>>>>>>> organizations. Actual regional organization policies are left to the
>>>>>>>> discretion of and agreement between the member state chairs and their
>>>>>>>> regional representatives and alternates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question: Should the above be offered as a motion or as an
>>>>>>>> amendment to the bylaws? If a motion is appropriate, in addition to Caryn,
>>>>>>>> are there two more board members that would like to co-sponsor such a
>>>>>>>> motion following discussion and revisions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.LPNE.org <http://www.lpne.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cell: 402-981-6469
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Home: 402-493-0873
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Office: 402-222-7207
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Region 1 Representative
>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington)
>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington)
>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>
>>
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--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative
(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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