[Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report

Sat Aug 6 08:46:27 EDT 2016

Joshua, let me explain.

There are five columns on page of the report.

1.  Total "MEM" - this is the total number of constituents in state that
have signed the pledge - whether they have paid dues or not.  It includes
inactive folks who are not reflected on this chart.
2.   Active "MEM"- Current Dues Payer or Lifetime Donor with a signed pledge
3.  Active "SUB" - Current due payer or lifetime donors who have not signed
the Pledge
4.  Total Active - that is just adding numbers 2 and numbers 3.
5. Total BSM- By-Law Definition of "Sustaining Member" and number used for
delegate count with a parenthetical comment of Art 5-3 that a Sustaining
member is any Party member who has given at least $25 to the party in the
prior twelve months, or who is a life member.  By that definition, a Pledge
signer.

What is the different between Numbers 2 and Number 5?  Dues payers? Check.
Lifetime donors?  Check.  Signed Pledge?  Check.  That is true for both of
those categories, so what is the difference?

And the different between those numbers in the states is only a few people,
and in some states (such as Hawaii, Nebraska, Rhode Island, South
Carolina), they are exactly the same.

*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Active subs need not sign the pledge, I agree.  I don't see that this
> challenges what I said, that MEM don't pay dues and BSM do.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I really suggest reading the categories in the membership report - that
>> isn't the difference here.  There is a categories for non-pledgers -
>> "active subs" - that doesn't answer the difference between "active mem" and
>> BSM.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 5, 2016, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To become a member, one signs the pledge.  To become a bylaws-sustaining
>>> member, one pays dues.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hehe
>>>>
>>>> But I did read it.  It doesn't answer  my question.  So perhaps it
>>>> needs to be longer to answer my question.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (If only the policy manual weren't so long...  Sorry, I couldn't
>>>>> resist. Heh.)
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-08-05 20:41, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Robert, I did, and perhaps I am being slow, that doesn't
>>>>> explain to me the difference between Active MEM and BSM.  It seems to me
>>>>> those two categories are identical, yet for nearly every state they vary by
>>>>> a few.
>>>>>
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> See policy manual:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section 2.05 MEMBERSHIP POLICIES......................
>>>>>> ..........................................................36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Membership Forms ..............................
>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>> ..............36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Association Levels ..............................
>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>> ...............36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Life Membership Status........................
>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>> .............36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Benefits ..............................
>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>> ................................36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Benefits Lapse Date ..............................
>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>> .............38
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 7:44 PM
>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone please explain to me the different categories?  I am not
>>>>>> understanding why these numbers differ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's just take CO as an example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Active MEM: 524
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Active SUB-40
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total Active-564
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total BSM- 525
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my question.  What is the difference between active  MEM and
>>>>>> BSM so that those numbers would differ?  I read the explanation in the
>>>>>> legend, but I am not understanding.  It seems like "active" and "BSM" are
>>>>>> functionally the same thing.  What am I missing here?  How can there be a
>>>>>> difference of "1" between these two numbers in CO?  It seems like these two
>>>>>> numbers are near identical but not actually identical in nearly every state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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