[Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report

Sat Aug 6 08:46:46 EDT 2016

First line should say on "page 2" of the report.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Joshua, let me explain.
>
> There are five columns on page of the report.
>
> 1.  Total "MEM" - this is the total number of constituents in state that
> have signed the pledge - whether they have paid dues or not.  It includes
> inactive folks who are not reflected on this chart.
> 2.   Active "MEM"- Current Dues Payer or Lifetime Donor with a signed
> pledge
> 3.  Active "SUB" - Current due payer or lifetime donors who have not
> signed the Pledge
> 4.  Total Active - that is just adding numbers 2 and numbers 3.
> 5. Total BSM- By-Law Definition of "Sustaining Member" and number used for
> delegate count with a parenthetical comment of Art 5-3 that a Sustaining
> member is any Party member who has given at least $25 to the party in the
> prior twelve months, or who is a life member.  By that definition, a Pledge
> signer.
>
> What is the different between Numbers 2 and Number 5?  Dues payers?
> Check.  Lifetime donors?  Check.  Signed Pledge?  Check.  That is true for
> both of those categories, so what is the difference?
>
> And the different between those numbers in the states is only a few
> people, and in some states (such as Hawaii, Nebraska, Rhode Island, South
> Carolina), they are exactly the same.
>
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Active subs need not sign the pledge, I agree.  I don't see that this
>> challenges what I said, that MEM don't pay dues and BSM do.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I really suggest reading the categories in the membership report - that
>>> isn't the difference here.  There is a categories for non-pledgers -
>>> "active subs" - that doesn't answer the difference between "active mem" and
>>> BSM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 5, 2016, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To become a member, one signs the pledge.  To become a
>>>> bylaws-sustaining member, one pays dues.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hehe
>>>>>
>>>>> But I did read it.  It doesn't answer  my question.  So perhaps it
>>>>> needs to be longer to answer my question.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (If only the policy manual weren't so long...  Sorry, I couldn't
>>>>>> resist. Heh.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-08-05 20:41, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Robert, I did, and perhaps I am being slow, that doesn't
>>>>>> explain to me the difference between Active MEM and BSM.  It seems to me
>>>>>> those two categories are identical, yet for nearly every state they vary by
>>>>>> a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See policy manual:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Section 2.05 MEMBERSHIP POLICIES......................
>>>>>>> ..........................................................36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Membership Forms ..............................
>>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>>> ..............36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Association Levels ..............................
>>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>>> ...............36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Life Membership Status........................
>>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>>> .............36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Benefits ..............................
>>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>>> ................................36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Benefits Lapse Date ..............................
>>>>>>> ............................................................
>>>>>>> .............38
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 7:44 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone please explain to me the different categories?  I am not
>>>>>>> understanding why these numbers differ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's just take CO as an example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Active MEM: 524
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Active SUB-40
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total Active-564
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total BSM- 525
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my question.  What is the difference between active  MEM and
>>>>>>> BSM so that those numbers would differ?  I read the explanation in the
>>>>>>> legend, but I am not understanding.  It seems like "active" and "BSM" are
>>>>>>> functionally the same thing.  What am I missing here?  How can there be a
>>>>>>> difference of "1" between these two numbers in CO?  It seems like these two
>>>>>>> numbers are near identical but not actually identical in nearly every state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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