[Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
Wes Benedict
wes.benedict at lp.org
Sat Aug 6 11:06:32 EDT 2016
If John signed the pledge and paid dues on 1/1/2015, then, at that
point, their "Active Membership" and "Sustaining Membership" both expire
on 1/1/2016.
We start sending renewal letters and renewal emails before people's
memberships expire.
If John renews his dues on 11/1/2015 (2 months before his expiration
date), then his "Active Membership" is extended to 1/1/2017 (per the
policy manual), but his "Sustaining Membership" will expire 11/1/2016
(per the bylaws).
The above kind of thing is one example of how the two sets of numbers
can vary--sometimes records aren't 100% complete updated right when a
report is run as well. And sometimes errors are made.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
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On 8/6/2016 10:52 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Wes, yes please!
>
> I am asking members and no one seems to understand this.
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org
> <mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org>> wrote:
>
> Cary, do you want me to answer this question?
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,wes.benedict at lp.org <mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org>
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> On 8/6/2016 10:37 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> Well you couldn't have signed the Pledge in 1971 since it wasn't
>> around then ;)
>>
>> But I am still confused by your example. Maybe here is the
>> better question to help me.
>>
>> What does one have to do to have "member benefits" that are not
>> co-extensive with BSM? Because it says "active mems" have signed
>> the Pledge.
>>
>> Does this just mean a contribution under $25?
>>
>> How can you be an active pledge-signer member (for active mem)
>> and not be a BSM? The only way I can see that is if one gave
>> less than $25.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org
>> <mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I amy have signed the NAP in 1971. Doesn’t matter when I
>> signed the NAP or if I signed the NAP ( for my active
>> membership benefits expire date).
>>
>> But in this example the ONLY thing the bylaws care about is
>> that I contributed $25 within the last year.
>>
>> Thus the last time I did this was $25 on 07/01/15 thus I am
>> no longer a BSM as of 07/01/16.
>>
>> Now on the “membership benefits side” – which the Policy
>> Manual dictates – I get my “benefits” expire date updated by
>> 12 months from my previous date. So if my previous expire
>> date was 08/30/15 and I renewed early on 07/01/15 my new
>> expire date is 08/30/16. Thus you can say my BSM ended on
>> 07/01/16 yet my ?membership benefits” expire date ends on
>> 08/30/16.
>>
>> My BSM would not end on 08/30/16 simply because that would
>> violate the bylaws since I had not given since 07/01/15.
>>
>> Keep in mind it really doesn’t matter when your BSM “ends”
>> except for counts for delegates 6 months pior to a convention
>> or your status on the LNC or JC which requires you to be a BSM.
>>
>> Live Free!
>>
>> /*/Robert/*/*/
>>
>>
>> /*
>>
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>>
>> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>> <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn
>> Ann Harlos
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:16 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
>>
>> Ahh okay (you messed up a date in there, I think you meant
>> 7/1/16 in the example of BSM expiring). Is that number even
>> meaningful for membership stats? It is really terribly
>> confusing.
>>
>> It seems in most cases that the two dates would be concurrent.
>>
>> So in your above example, you had "membership benefits" due
>> to paying some money around 8/30/14 prior to agreeing with
>> the NAP which was done on 7/1/15. Because if you had agreed
>> with the NAP and paid money on 8/30/14 and renewed early on
>> 7/1/15, your BSM membership would still go through 8/30/16,
>> correct?
>>
>> Am I understanding this now? If I am, I am going to write up
>> a mini-article on this to explain it to others. I cannot be
>> the only one confounded by this, no one just wasn't obsessed
>> enough to pursue an answer since the numbers were negligible.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> ColoradoStateCoordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Robert Kraus
>> <robert.kraus at lp.org <mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry meant I would be a BSM until 07/01/2016 not 15.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>> <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Robert Kraus
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:05 AM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
>>
>> Simple explanation: BSM (Sustaining Membership) is per the
>> bylaws which basically says you are a sustaining member if
>> you contribute a total of $25 within a year and agree to the NAP
>>
>> Example – I agree with the NAP and paid $25 for anything on
>> 07/01/2015 thus I was a “BSM” until 07/01/2015 (I am no
>> longer a “BSM” in this example)
>>
>> The “Active” (doesn’t matter Mem or Sub) part is dictated by
>> the policy manual and relates to “membership benefits” like
>> LP News. For example I paid $25 on 07/01/15 to renew my
>> “active membership” but my benefits did not expire until
>> 08/30/15. In other words in this example I renewed early.
>> According to our rules my “expire” date for “membership
>> benefits” would be extended by one year. Thus my new “active
>> membership expire date” is 08/30/16. So I am “active” until
>> the end of this month even though I am no longer a BSM.
>>
>> So if I come from the state of PR and am the only “active”
>> member – my state will show zero (0) for BSM and one (1) for MEM.
>>
>> Live Free!
>>
>> /*/Robert/*/
>>
>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>> Operations at LP.org <mailto:Operations at LP.org>
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <tel:202.333.0008%20x%20231>
>>
>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>
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>> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1>
>>
>> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>> <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn
>> Ann Harlos
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 8:47 AM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership Report
>>
>> First line should say on "page 2" of the report.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua, let me explain.
>>
>> There are five columns on page of the report.
>>
>> 1. Total "MEM" - this is the total number of constituents in
>> state that have signed the pledge - whether they have paid
>> dues or not. It includes inactive folks who are not
>> reflected on this chart.
>>
>> 2. Active "MEM"- Current Dues Payer or Lifetime Donor with
>> a signed pledge
>>
>> 3. Active "SUB" - Current due payer or lifetime donors who
>> have not signed the Pledge
>>
>> 4. Total Active - that is just adding numbers 2 and numbers 3.
>>
>> 5. Total BSM- By-Law Definition of "Sustaining Member" and
>> number used for delegate count with a parenthetical comment
>> of Art 5-3 that a Sustaining member is any Party member who
>> has given at least $25 to the party in the prior twelve
>> months, or who is a life member. By that definition, a
>> Pledge signer.
>>
>> What is the different between Numbers 2 and Number 5? Dues
>> payers? Check. Lifetime donors? Check. Signed Pledge?
>> Check. That is true for both of those categories, so what is
>> the difference?
>>
>> And the different between those numbers in the states is only
>> a few people, and in some states (such as Hawaii, Nebraska,
>> Rhode Island, South Carolina), they are exactly the same.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> ColoradoStateCoordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Joshua Katz
>> <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Active subs need not sign the pledge, I agree. I don't see
>> that this challenges what I said, that MEM don't pay dues and
>> BSM do.
>>
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I really suggest reading the categories in the membership
>> report - that isn't the difference here. There is a
>> categories for non-pledgers - "active subs" - that doesn't
>> answer the difference between "active mem" and BSM.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 5, 2016, Joshua Katz
>> <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> To become a member, one signs the pledge. To become a
>> bylaws-sustaining member, one pays dues.
>>
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hehe
>>
>> But I did read it. It doesn't answer my question. So
>> perhaps it needs to be longer to answer my question.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ken Moellman
>> <ken.moellman at lpky.org <mailto:ken.moellman at lpky.org>> wrote:
>>
>> (If only the policy manual weren't so long... Sorry, I
>> couldn't resist. Heh.)
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>
>> On 2016-08-05 20:41, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Robert, I did, and perhaps I am being slow,
>> that doesn't explain to me the difference between Active
>> MEM and BSM. It seems to me those two categories are
>> identical, yet for nearly every state they vary by a few.
>>
>> **In Liberty,**
>>
>> **Caryn Ann Harlos**
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> ColoradoStateCoordinator, Libertarian Party Radical
>> Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Robert Kraus
>> <robert.kraus at lp.org <mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org>> wrote:
>>
>> See policy manual:
>>
>> Section 2.05 MEMBERSHIP
>> POLICIES................................................................................36
>>
>> 1) Membership Forms
>> ........................................................................................................36
>>
>> 2) Association Levels
>> .........................................................................................................36
>>
>> 3) Life Membership
>> Status.................................................................................................36
>>
>> 4) Benefits
>> ..........................................................................................................................36
>>
>> 5) Benefits Lapse Date
>> .......................................................................................................38
>>
>> Live Free!
>>
>> /*/Robert/*/
>>
>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>> Operations at LP.org <mailto:Operations at LP.org>
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <tel:202.333.0008%20x%20231>
>>
>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>
>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
>>
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>>
>> **From:**Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at h
>> <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at h>q.lp.org
>> <http://q.lp.org>] **On Behalf Of **Caryn Ann Harlos
>> **Sent:** Friday, August 05, 2016 7:44 PM
>> **To:** lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> **Subject:** [Lnc-business] Newbie question - Membership
>> Report
>>
>> Can someone please explain to me the different
>> categories? I am not understanding why these numbers differ.
>>
>> Let's just take CO as an example:
>>
>> Active MEM: 524
>>
>> Active SUB-40
>>
>> Total Active-564
>>
>> Total BSM- 525
>>
>> Here is my question. What is the difference between
>> active MEM and BSM so that those numbers would differ?
>> I read the explanation in the legend, but I am not
>> understanding. It seems like "active" and "BSM" are
>> functionally the same thing. What am I missing here?
>> How can there be a difference of "1" between these two
>> numbers in CO? It seems like these two numbers are near
>> identical but not actually identical in nearly every state.
>>
>> --
>>
>> **In Liberty,**
>>
>> **Caryn Ann Harlos**
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
>> Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>
>> ColoradoStateCoordinator, Libertarian Party Radical
>> Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
>> Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> <mailto:Harlos at LP.org>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
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>> <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
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>>
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>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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>>
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>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>> Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
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>> <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
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