[Lnc-business] Gun Rights/Watch List Resolution - seeking co-sponsors

Tue Aug 9 18:13:33 EDT 2016

I believe LPWA will stand in solidarity... and our state constitution is
pretty clear on it as well.

*Steven M. NielsonRegion 1 Alternate to LP*
*Former Chairperson 2015-2016,*

*Libertarian Party of Washington State 360-662-6362 <360-662-6362>*

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The purpose of the resolution is to counter some statements by our VPOTUS
> nominee over the past week or so in
> various interview.
>
> Although I don't disagree with the concept of the resolution, I think only
> the delegates in convention can pass it as
> currently worded. If you change it to a resolution by the LNC, I might
> consider sponsoring.
>
> Live Free,
>
>
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 Phone
> 317-582-1773 Fax
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Steven Nielson <stevennielson at lpwa.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I have drafted the following for consideration to adopt by the LPWA:
>>
>> RESOLUTION OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WASHINGTON STATE
>>
>>
>> WE, THE ELECTED EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF
>> WASHINGTON STATE, DO HOLD THE FOLLOWING TRUTHS TO BE AS SELF-EVIDENT TODAY
>> AS IN THE TIME OF OUR FOUNDERS, THAT MEN AND WOMEN RETAIN THEIR NATURAL
>> RIGHTS DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF GOVERNMENTS INSTITUTED AROUND THEM, AND THAT
>> NATURAL RIGHTS CANNOT BE JUSTLY REVOKED. INASMUCH, AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, IT IS THE NATURAL RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO STAND IN DEFENSE OF
>> HIMSELF, HIS PROPERTY, AND HIS POSTERITY; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, IT IS IN FOLLOWING WITH THE NATIONAL LIBERTARIAN PLATFORM THAT
>> LIBERTARIANS RECOGNIZE THE INFRINGEMENT OF NATURAL RIGHTS INHERENT IN
>> MANDATORY RESTRICTION, REGULATION, OR MONITORING OF ARMS TRANSACTIONS; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, THE WASHINGTON STATE CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 1 SECTION 24,
>> REAFFIRMS THE NATURAL RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN TO BEAR ARMS IN
>> DEFENSE WITHOUT IMPAIRMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 2, REAFFIRMS THE
>> NATURAL RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, THE INDEPENDENT COURT SYSTEM HAS UPHELD THAT THE GOVERNING
>> DOCUMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY ARE INTENDED TO RESTRICT THE GOVERNMENT’S ABUSES
>> AGAINST OUR NATURAL RIGHTS TO DEFENSE; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, THERE IS NO OPINION OF THE COURT NOR MODIFICATION TO GOVERNING
>> DOCUMENTS THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REVOKE A NATURAL RIGHT OF AN
>> INDIVIDUAL; AND
>>
>> WHEREAS, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WASHINGTON STATE RECOGNIZES THE INTENT
>> OF THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPAIR AND INFRINGE UPON THE NATURAL RIGHTS TO
>> DEFENSE, AND THE NATURAL RIGHT OF PRIVACY IN OUR INDIVIDUAL AFFAIRS;
>>
>> BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WASHINGTON STATE OPPOSES ANY
>> POLICY, IN ANY JURISDICTION, THAT WOULD DENY ACCESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO
>> ANY FIREARM OR AMMUNITION, AND WE AFFIRM THAT THE PLACEMENT OF ANY
>> INDIVIDUAL ON A GOVERNMENT WATCHLIST OR NO-FLY LIST WITHOUT DUE PROCESS IS
>> A VIOLATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL’S NATURAL RIGHTS AND A VIOLATION OF
>> CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS FROM THE GOVERNMENT, AND WE AFFIRM THAT ANY
>> IMPAIRMENT OF ACCESS TO ARMS AND AMMUNITION OF THE INDIVIDUAL PLACED ON
>> SAID WATCHLISTS IS A VIOLATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL’S NATURAL RIGHTS, WHICH
>> CANNOT BE JUSTLY REVOKED, AND WE DETERMINE THAT ANY SUCH USERPATION IS
>> DESTRUCTIVE TO THE CONSENTED PURPOSE OF THAT GOVERNMENT AND WE OPPOSE ANY
>> SUCH REGULATION AS AN ABUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT’S RESTIRCTED AUTHORITY TO
>> GOVERN.
>>
>> PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WASHINGTON
>> STATE BY CHAIRMAN DAVID TRAYNOR ON 09 AUGUST 2016
>>
>> *Steven M. NielsonRegion 1 Alternate to LP*
>> *Former Chairperson 2015-2016,*
>>
>>
>> *Libertarian Party of Washington State 360-662-6362 <360-662-6362>*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the biggest difference between the gun laws and the drug laws is
>>> that the status quo is different.  Drug laws have (most) of the momentum in
>>> the right direction, the only question is how far we'll go.  On guns, the
>>> most libertarian outcome among the likely possibilities is standing still.
>>>
>>> This is at least worth full discussion and consideration.  I'll
>>> cosponsor.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are being slammed by gun rights groups for not taking a firm
>>>> proactive stand on this.  In Colorado, we (they) have this question come up
>>>> most often at Outreach booths and the LPCO took a firm position on it to
>>>> quell any confusion that may have been the result of differing statements
>>>> than our candidates have made considering guns and watch lists and the
>>>> direction of the current administration, particularly considering that
>>>> "ant-government types, such as libertarians" have been targetted for
>>>> watchlists over the past year and as campaign fear-mongering takes place,
>>>> is certain to remain an issue.  However, Joshua is right.  There are other
>>>> multiple issues that could be addressed.
>>>>
>>>> Let me lay out the frank concerns of the Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> (via the State Chair)  which I am sure is shared by many members and
>>>> affiliates.
>>>>
>>>> There are three issues which are in the news about which the position
>>>> of our Party is being muddled.  Freedom of association, drug laws, and gun
>>>> rights.  Massive changes in freedom of association laws are not going to
>>>> happen tomorrow.  Drugs other than pot are not going to be legalized
>>>> tomorrow.  Gun rights restrictions and watch lists are happening right NOW
>>>> and we need to take a stand now and be crystal crystal clear as national
>>>> leadership.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think this is, if such a phrase makes sense, among the worst and
>>>>> most dangerous forms of gun control.  It's also among the most insidious,
>>>>> which is even more disturbing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I therefore am supportive, but I'd be curious to hear why we are
>>>>> singling out this issue, among the many offenses against our freedom that
>>>>> are discussed heavily in the policy world.  I don't think anyone would be
>>>>> surprised to hear we favor gun rights and due process - at least those who
>>>>> know us, since, after all, one can in fact be surprised more generally by
>>>>> such a shocking "left and right" combination.  I don't think this will be
>>>>> news to anyone about this party, is what I mean to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps more broadly - what is the purpose of this resolution?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I can be helped to see this, I will likely cosponsor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In furtherance of the request from CO and now AZ for the LNC to
>>>>>> consider a resolution similar to the CO Gun Rights and Watch Lists
>>>>>> Resolution, I offer this and seek co-sponsors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>>>> right;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at
>>>>>> any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>>>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of
>>>>>> due process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately
>>>>>> regulating and restricting access for firearms and ammunition and
>>>>>> may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no
>>>>>> crime of their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil
>>>>>> and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party opposes any policy which
>>>>>> would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for
>>>>>> being placed on any government watch or no-fly list and reaffirms its call
>>>>>> to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed firearm and ammunition
>>>>>> regulations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
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