[Lnc-business] Amended Gun Rights/Watch List Resolution - seeking co-sponsors
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 07:45:50 EDT 2016
As I said before, I do support Starchild's language and if there were
support for that motion, I would support the changes and will solicit
the CO Chair's thoughts since I submitted the original resolution at their
request.
I heard from another LNC member who may wish to weigh in but was tied up
with ballot access issues and I ask that we wait until this member can
weigh in.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all - I'm happy to cosponsor or vote for either motion.
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim, I did, and had the requisite support. For some reason your
>> message keep ending up in spam :(
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sfdreamer at earthlink.net');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sam, Joshua, and Daniel, what are your issues with the changes I
>>> proposed? All of you have expressed a preference for the original language,
>>> but no one has said anything about why.
>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>> ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>
>>> I too would rather go with the original language.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danielehayes at icloud.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sticking with the motion sponsored by Harlos, Hayes, Katz, and,
>>>> Goldstein.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I support the language I offered to co-sponsor.
>>>>
>>>> Live Free,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have to confess that the whole email ballot thing is cumbersome.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do the current co-sponsors feel about these changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sfdreamer at earthlink.net');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to co-sponsor, but putting on my wordsmith hat, request the
>>>>>> motion be reworded with the following typographical and substantive
>>>>>> changes, if this is amenable to the sponsor, to read as follows (changes in
>>>>>> red):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>>>>> right;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at
>>>>>>> any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>>>>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of
>>>>>>> due process and denies the legitimacy of laws against victimless "crimes”;
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the governments in the United States have has steadily
>>>>>>> encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and
>>>>>>> restricting access for to firearms and ammunition and may further
>>>>>>> seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of their
>>>>>>> inherent right to full abrogate civil rights, and indeed the basic
>>>>>>> human right, to self-defense by prohibiting access denying their civil
>>>>>>> and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition even in cases
>>>>>>> where a person has not been convicted of any crime; and
>>>>>>> WHEREAS some recent statements by Libertarian candidates appearing
>>>>>>> in the media have the potential to cause confusion among members of the
>>>>>>> public regarding how Libertarians view these issues;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> opposes any law or policy which would deny or restrict any person's
>>>>>>> access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for being
>>>>>>> placed as a result of their name appearing on any a government
>>>>>>> watch or no-fly list, and reaffirms its both our party's opposition
>>>>>>> to any further and oppose existing or proposed regulations on
>>>>>>> firearms and ammunition as described above and our demand that all
>>>>>>> such existing regulations be repealed, and calls upon Libertarian
>>>>>>> candidates to uphold our party's pro-freedom stance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will also cosponsor this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In furtherance of the request from CO and now AZ (and likely WA) for
>>>>>>> the LNC to consider a resolution similar to the CO Gun Rights and Watch
>>>>>>> Lists Resolution, and Sam Goldstein's commentary on my prior request, I
>>>>>>> offer a motion to adopt the following resolution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>>>>> right;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at
>>>>>>> any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>>>>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of
>>>>>>> due process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by
>>>>>>> illegitimately regulating and restricting access for firearms and ammunition
>>>>>>> and may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of
>>>>>>> no crime of their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil
>>>>>>> and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any
>>>>>>> policy which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any
>>>>>>> person simply for being placed on any government watch or no-fly
>>>>>>> list and reaffirms its call to repeal and oppose any existing or
>>>>>>> proposed firearm and ammunition regulations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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