[Lnc-business] Amended Gun Rights/Watch List Resolution - seeking co-sponsors
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 07:50:46 EDT 2016
I am sorry, I hit send too soon.... But my request is that we hold off
going to ballot until members who might be tied up - particularly with
ballot access can weigh in.
Sponsor tally thus far:
My original resolution: Harlos, Hays, Katz, Goldstein, Vohra
Starchild's amended resolution: Starchild, Harlos, Vohra
On Wednesday, August 10, 2016, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:
> As I said before, I do support Starchild's language and if there were
> support for that motion, I would support the changes and will solicit
> the CO Chair's thoughts since I submitted the original resolution at their
> request.
>
> I heard from another LNC member who may wish to weigh in but was tied up
> with ballot access issues and I ask that we wait until this member can
> weigh in.
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','votevohra at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all - I'm happy to cosponsor or vote for either motion.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim, I did, and had the requisite support. For some reason your
>>> message keep ending up in spam :(
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sam, Joshua, and Daniel, what are your issues with the changes I
>>>> proposed? All of you have expressed a preference for the original language,
>>>> but no one has said anything about why.
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I too would rather go with the original language.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am sticking with the motion sponsored by Harlos, Hayes, Katz, and,
>>>>> Goldstein.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I support the language I offered to co-sponsor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Live Free,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to confess that the whole email ballot thing is cumbersome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do the current co-sponsors feel about these changes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to co-sponsor, but putting on my wordsmith hat, request the
>>>>>>> motion be reworded with the following typographical and substantive
>>>>>>> changes, if this is amenable to the sponsor, to read as follows (changes in
>>>>>>> red):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>>>>>> right;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at
>>>>>>>> any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring
>>>>>>>> the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right
>>>>>>>> of due process and denies the legitimacy of laws against victimless
>>>>>>>> "crimes”; and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the governments in the United States have has steadily
>>>>>>>> encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and
>>>>>>>> restricting access for to firearms and ammunition and may further
>>>>>>>> seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of
>>>>>>>> their inherent right to full abrogate civil rights, and indeed the
>>>>>>>> basic human right, to self-defense by prohibiting access denying
>>>>>>>> their civil and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition even
>>>>>>>> in cases where a person has not been convicted of any crime; and
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS some recent statements by Libertarian candidates appearing
>>>>>>>> in the media have the potential to cause confusion among members of the
>>>>>>>> public regarding how Libertarians view these issues;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>> opposes any law or policy which would deny or restrict any person's
>>>>>>>> access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for
>>>>>>>> being placed as a result of their name appearing on any a
>>>>>>>> government watch or no-fly list, and reaffirms its both our party's
>>>>>>>> opposition to any further and oppose existing or proposed regulations
>>>>>>>> on firearms and ammunition as described above and our demand that
>>>>>>>> all such existing regulations be repealed, and calls upon Libertarian
>>>>>>>> candidates to uphold our party's pro-freedom stance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will also cosponsor this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In furtherance of the request from CO and now AZ (and likely WA)
>>>>>>>> for the LNC to consider a resolution similar to the CO Gun Rights and Watch
>>>>>>>> Lists Resolution, and Sam Goldstein's commentary on my prior request, I
>>>>>>>> offer a motion to adopt the following resolution:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>>>>>> right;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at
>>>>>>>> any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring
>>>>>>>> the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right
>>>>>>>> of due process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights
>>>>>>>> by illegitimately regulating and restricting access for firearms
>>>>>>>> and ammunition and may further seek to deprive people who have
>>>>>>>> been convicted of no crime of their inherent right to full
>>>>>>>> self-defense by denying their civil and inherent rights to obtain
>>>>>>>> firearms and ammunition;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any
>>>>>>>> policy which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to
>>>>>>>> any person simply for being placed on any government watch or
>>>>>>>> no-fly list and reaffirms its call to repeal and oppose any
>>>>>>>> existing or proposed firearm and ammunition regulations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Arvin Vohra
>>
>> www.VoteVohra.com
>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>> (301) 320-3634
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
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--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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