[Lnc-business] LP Puerto Rico motion

[Starchild]

	The delegate apportionment seems like a technical detail that should be able to be worked out without excessive difficulty. 

	Regarding directing members of the Bylaws Committee to create and support an amendment in accordance with this motion, I think that would be kind of like how delegates are sent to the national Democrat and Republican conventions with instructions to vote for a particular candidate. Such instructions are non-binding, but carry some weight. I rather like the idea of getting more focus on what appointees to that committee actually intend to do on the committee.

Love & Liberty,
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On Aug 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> I am in agreement with that analysis - and I reiterate my concern over changes that would be suggested that effect delegate apportionment 
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> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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> On Friday, August 12, 2016, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
> In general, I'm supportive.  A few thoughts:
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> "Shall" is a confusing word.  It generally expresses something mandatory, which is what differentiates it from "may."  Sometimes, it's less clear, though.  For example:
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> Every citizen shall, upon viewing a murder, call the police.
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> Am I in violation if I never see a murder?  Of course not, the shall only kicks in when the hypotheses is met.
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> The bylaws say that the LNC shall charter as affiliates any qualifying organization requesting such status.  If no such organization requests such status, do we need to go looking for one, or calling upon them to request it?  I think not, unless the rule above means I need to go find a murder.
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> However, there's also nothing wrong with doing so.
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>  I am concerned about the instructions to the Bylaws Committee, though.  We can ask our appointees to consider something; we can even select appointees on the basis of their inclination to do it.  I don't think the latter is a good idea, but we could do it.  Can we make the committee create and support an amendment, though?  How will it work?  If the committee votes against it, what will we do against it?  What if the committee votes in favor, but puts it last in the report?  
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> I think I could support this more easily if the committee were simply directed to consider the idea.
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> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Patrick McKnight <patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I make the following motion on behalf of Dr. Phillies:
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> "Whereas, our Bylaws provide "The National Committee shall charter state-level affiliate parties from any qualifying organization
> requesting such status in each state, territory and the District of Columbia (hereinafter, state)" and
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> Whereas no affiliate is currently recognized from any of the inhabited Territories of the United States,
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> Therefore, Be It Resolved that the Libertarian National Committee encourages the Partido Libertario de Puerto Rico (Libertarian Party of Puerto Rico) to prepare for and apply to become an affiliate of our Libertarian Party, and
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> Be It Further Resolved, that the Libertarian National Committee encourages the Libertarians in America's other Territories to organize themselves as Libertarian political groups that advance to apply for affiliate status,
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> and Be it Further Resolved, that the Libertarian national Committee directs its appointees to the 2018 National Convention Bylaws Committee to create and support a Bylaws amendment establishing delegate representation for all Party Sustaining members who do not live in a current affiliate."
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> Thanks,
> Patrick McKnight 
> Region 8 Rep
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