[Lnc-business] LP Puerto Rico motion

Sat Aug 13 16:48:29 EDT 2016

If a request for co sponsors is made, I will co-sponsor the part before the
AND.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Patrick McKnight <
patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:

> From Dr Phillies...
>
> "As my name was invoked as the author of the motion:
>
> 1) I suggest removing argument via division of the motion between
>
>     "Whereas, our Bylaws provide "The National Committee shall charter
>     state-level affiliate parties from any qualifying organization
>     requesting such status in each state, territory and the District of
>     Columbia (hereinafter, state)" and
>
>     Whereas no affiliate is currently recognized from any of the
>     inhabited Territories of the United States,
>
>     Therefore, Be It Resolved that the Libertarian National Committee
>     encourages the Partido Libertario de Puerto Rico (Libertarian Party
>     of Puerto Rico) to prepare for and apply to become an affiliate of
>     our Libertarian Party, and
>
>     Be It Further Resolved, that the Libertarian National Committee
>     encourages the Libertarians in America's other Territories to
>     organize themselves as Libertarian political groups that advance to
>     apply for affiliate status,
>
> AND
>
>     and Be it Further Resolved, that the Libertarian national Committee
>     directs its appointees to the 2018 National Convention Bylaws
>     Committee to create and support a Bylaws amendment establishing
>     delegate representation for all Party Sustaining members who do not
>     live in a current affiliate."
>
> 2) With respect to the Partido Libertario de Puerto Rico, I urge being
> pro-active about pursuing them.
>
> 3) With respect to the people living abroad, there is this remarkable
> invention known as the internet, so it is straightforward for them to
> organize especially with a little help.
>
> In two other notes: (1) I have a volunteer who is a native speaker of
> Russian and would be available--up to some point--to translate our
> literature into Russian.
>
> (2) Please thank the staff for their great dispatch in sending me 2000
> bumper stickers, all with the word "Libertarian" front and center."
>
> On Aug 13, 2016 11:15 AM, "David Demarest" <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Caryn, Patrick: If needed, I offer to co-sponsor a revised proposal that
>> addresses any bylaws concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>
>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>
>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus
>>
>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>
>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>
>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>
>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
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>> Cell:      402-981-6469
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>> Home: 402-493-0873
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>> Office: 402-222-7207
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>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:53 AM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] LP Puerto Rico motion
>>
>>
>>
>> Phillies is not opposed to rewording the bylaws part.
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>>
>> Patrick can you offer a revised proposal?  I think you will get
>> sufficient co-sponsors if you do.
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>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Caryn, based on your input below, it sounds like there is plenty of
>> interest from Puerto Rico which answers my question.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let’s go for it. Bylaws or no bylaws, I can’t fathom a reason for not
>> wanting an affiliate in a U.S. territory.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>
>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>
>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus
>>
>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>
>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>
>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>
>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
>>
>> Cell:      402-981-6469
>>
>> Home: 402-493-0873
>>
>> Office: 402-222-7207
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 11:02 PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Cc:* Demarest, David P. <david.demarest at firstdata.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LP Puerto Rico motion
>>
>>
>>
>> David if the current group does not wish to affiliate that should not
>> stop us from encouraging a group to affiliate.  Why wouldn't we extend the
>> invitation?  The National Facebook Page gets regular inquiries about a
>> potential affiliate in Puerto Rico.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
>> - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:59 PM, David Demarest <
>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ditto Caryn, I support encouraging a Puerto Rico affiliate but agree with
>> Brett that we should first check with Puerto Rico to see if they want one.
>> Whether or not that has already done was not clear to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>
>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>
>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus
>>
>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>
>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>
>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>
>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
>>
>> Cell:      402-981-6469
>>
>> Home: 402-493-0873
>>
>> Office: 402-222-7207
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 10:15 PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LP Puerto Rico motion
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with Alicia's concern on the Bylaws request for members outside
>> of affiliates.  That whole bylaws section is problematic and I have an
>> issue with the LNC directing an independent committee in that manner.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have no issue with encouraging a Puerto Rico affiliate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
>> - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I don't see the point of the portion encouraging a Puerto Rican
>> affiliate specifically, and I don't agree with the clause which would
>> direct the Bylaws Committee to create delegate slots for members outside of
>> affiliates.
>>
>> Over the past two years, at least two and perhaps three times I was asked
>> for a copy of the approved form to use for forming a new affiliate and was
>> told the request was for Puerto Rico.  I never communicated with anyone
>> actually from Puerto Rico, though, as the requests came to me through staff
>> and a state chair.  So I don't know if someone in Puerto Rico actually
>> wants to do it, or if other people just want someone there to do it.
>> Regardless, no group has yet submitted an application to become an
>> affiliate, and if they do so, we'll charter an affiliate.
>>
>> If there aren't the required handful of interested people there, I don't
>> want to encourage creation of something that will would promptly atrophy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding delegate apportionment for members outside of affiliates:
>>
>> 1)  As of the official date for calculating delegates for the 2016
>> convention, there were only 61 sustaining party members outside of
>> affiliates.
>>
>> 2)  Those members are spread all over the world, not grouped in close
>> proximity in a region which could reasonably form some sort of functional
>> organization and choose delegates to represent them.
>>
>> 3)  There are plenty of affiliates whose rules would permit those 61
>> members to be seated as convention delegates already if they are so
>> inclined.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
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>>
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>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Patrick McKnight <
>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I make the following motion on behalf of Dr. Phillies:
>>
>> "Whereas, our Bylaws provide "The National Committee shall charter
>> state-level affiliate parties from any qualifying organization
>> requesting such status in each state, territory and the District of
>> Columbia (hereinafter, state)" and
>>
>> Whereas no affiliate is currently recognized from any of the inhabited
>> Territories of the United States,
>>
>> Therefore, Be It Resolved that the Libertarian National Committee
>> encourages the Partido Libertario de Puerto Rico (Libertarian Party of
>> Puerto Rico) to prepare for and apply to become an affiliate of our
>> Libertarian Party, and
>>
>> Be It Further Resolved, that the Libertarian National Committee
>> encourages the Libertarians in America's other Territories to organize
>> themselves as Libertarian political groups that advance to apply for
>> affiliate status,
>>
>> and Be it Further Resolved, that the Libertarian national Committee
>> directs its appointees to the 2018 National Convention Bylaws Committee to
>> create and support a Bylaws amendment establishing delegate representation
>> for all Party Sustaining members who do not live in a current affiliate."
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick McKnight
>> Region 8 Rep
>>
>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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