[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 09:11:31 EDT 2016
Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm
suggestion. I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as
described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm
on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:
Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)
Transparency proposal
Campaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)
Now that there is something specific... thoughts? Firm support?
Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
1.
d) Electronic meetings may be called by either:
-
The committee Chair, or
-
1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is
greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a
majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the
entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
2.
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so
by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting,
time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so
called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10
members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These
time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's
Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
1.
f) For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a meeting
must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
2.
g) When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an
electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice
of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition
to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to
participate in the meeting.
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into
> strong walls.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
>> Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
>> win. There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will need to
>> retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do. And if we win,
>> it is still a great portion of goals to discuss. We can't let these brand
>> new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
>>> electronic meeting. The other part is closely related, though - I just
>>> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
>>> we seem to want to have on goals. In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
>>> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
>>> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
>>> meeting. Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
>>> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
>>> not sure. In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
>>> hours. I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
>>> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
>>> than something like goals. Just my $.02 though.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter. If things are not completed, we
>>>> discuss another one. Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum
>>>> though I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>>>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first
>>>>> time a group uses a new technology. Online meetings are adequate for one
>>>>> or two narrow subjects at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting. Some are dealing with
>>>>> other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions. There will be
>>>>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>>>>> ringing phones, etc. There's usually at least one person who will not
>>>>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>>>>> else. It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances. Some are
>>>>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to
>>>>> keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who
>>>>> forgot to self-mute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal. If there are a couple of
>>>>> subjects we need to take up, fine. But we really should try a 1-2 hour
>>>>> meeting first before we shoot for the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Joshua. We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>>>>> enough support. Or if the Chair calls a meeting. A member asked me
>>>>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>>>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>>>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September. I'm not sure
>>>>>>> about handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet. My
>>>>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this: I can't tell you
>>>>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting. I would
>>>>>>>> like people to give availibility. Seems to me this is something that can
>>>>>>>> and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Business? Primarily the goals that were not done the last
>>>>>>>> meeting. And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the
>>>>>>>> transparency proposal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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