[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors

Thu Aug 18 21:21:46 EDT 2016

I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into
strong walls.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
> Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
> win.  There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will  need to
> retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do.  And if we win,
> it is still a great portion of goals to discuss.  We can't let these brand
> new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
>> electronic meeting.  The other part is closely related, though - I just
>> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
>> we seem to want to have on goals.  In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
>> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
>> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
>> meeting.  Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
>> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
>> not sure.  In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
>> hours.  I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
>> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
>> than something like goals.  Just my $.02 though.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter.  If things are not completed, we discuss
>>> another one.  Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though
>>> I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time
>>>> a group uses a new technology.  Online meetings are adequate for one or two
>>>> narrow subjects at a time.
>>>>
>>>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting.  Some are dealing with
>>>> other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions.  There will be
>>>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>>>> ringing phones, etc.  There's usually at least one person who will not
>>>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>>>> else.  It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances.  Some are
>>>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>>>
>>>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to
>>>> keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who
>>>> forgot to self-mute.
>>>>
>>>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal.  If there are a couple of
>>>> subjects we need to take up, fine.  But we really should try a 1-2 hour
>>>> meeting first before we shoot for the moon.
>>>>
>>>> -Alicia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Joshua.  We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>>>> enough support.  Or if the Chair calls a meeting.  A member asked me
>>>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September.  I'm not sure about
>>>>>> handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet.  My
>>>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this:  I can't tell you
>>>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting.  I would
>>>>>>> like people to give availibility.  Seems to me this is something that can
>>>>>>> and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Business?  Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting.
>>>>>>> And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency
>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
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> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
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