[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors

Thu Aug 18 21:15:58 EDT 2016

Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
win.  There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will  need to
retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do.  And if we win,
it is still a great portion of goals to discuss.  We can't let these brand
new Libertarians slip through the cracks.

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
> electronic meeting.  The other part is closely related, though - I just
> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
> we seem to want to have on goals.  In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
> meeting.  Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
> not sure.  In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
> hours.  I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
> than something like goals.  Just my $.02 though.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter.  If things are not completed, we discuss
>> another one.  Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though
>> I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time
>>> a group uses a new technology.  Online meetings are adequate for one or two
>>> narrow subjects at a time.
>>>
>>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting.  Some are dealing with other
>>> distractions like pets, other people, and televisions.  There will be
>>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>>> ringing phones, etc.  There's usually at least one person who will not
>>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>>> else.  It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances.  Some are
>>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>>
>>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to
>>> keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who
>>> forgot to self-mute.
>>>
>>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal.  If there are a couple of subjects
>>> we need to take up, fine.  But we really should try a 1-2 hour meeting
>>> first before we shoot for the moon.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Joshua.  We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>>> enough support.  Or if the Chair calls a meeting.  A member asked me
>>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September.  I'm not sure about
>>>>> handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet.  My
>>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this:  I can't tell you
>>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting.  I would
>>>>>> like people to give availibility.  Seems to me this is something that can
>>>>>> and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Business?  Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting.
>>>>>> And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency
>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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