[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors

Thu Aug 18 20:57:03 EDT 2016

This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
electronic meeting.  The other part is closely related, though - I just
don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
we seem to want to have on goals.  In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
meeting.  Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
not sure.  In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
hours.  I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
than something like goals.  Just my $.02 though.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Alicia, I am fine with shorter.  If things are not completed, we discuss
> another one.  Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though
> I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time a
>> group uses a new technology.  Online meetings are adequate for one or two
>> narrow subjects at a time.
>>
>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting.  Some are dealing with other
>> distractions like pets, other people, and televisions.  There will be
>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>> ringing phones, etc.  There's usually at least one person who will not
>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>> else.  It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances.  Some are
>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>
>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to
>> keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who
>> forgot to self-mute.
>>
>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal.  If there are a couple of subjects
>> we need to take up, fine.  But we really should try a 1-2 hour meeting
>> first before we shoot for the moon.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Joshua.  We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>> enough support.  Or if the Chair calls a meeting.  A member asked me
>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September.  I'm not sure about
>>>> handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet.  My
>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this:  I can't tell you
>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting.  I would like
>>>>> people to give availibility.  Seems to me this is something that can and
>>>>> should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Business?  Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting.
>>>>> And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency
>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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