[Lnc-business] Motion to Suspend

Fri Sep 16 11:15:39 EDT 2016

Thanks, Daniel.

*Stop showing off your gumbo.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Brett,
>
> Hopefully they show up to their own convention and select responsive
> leadership and participate themselves other than when they want to "break"
> stuff.
>
> Also, I don't think it's the duty to bring EVERY suggested motion from
> members of a Region on the part of the Reps.  If I felt a motion had
> widespread support, I would poll my chairs to see if they felt it was
> representative of their members position.
>
>
> Also, I am extra laden with typos this morning.  On top of that I meant to
> day INSIDES not outside in one of my other nails I believe.  Without
> looking, I meant that there was not sufficient notice time for anything
> else to even be added to the Sept 25th meeting even if it could be added as
> there are now less than 10 days to the meeting.
>
> Also regarding the Sept 25th meeting.  At the very least we can have
> questions answered by staff in real time even if we don't have a quorum.
> Though I would hope we would.
>
> I am gonna take my typos and phone and go sit in the corner over here
> now....
> With a bowl of gumbo.
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> The next state convention is actually next weekend in New Hampshire.
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
> Region 3 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
>
> brett.bittner at lp.org
> 317.643.2566
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And I get to see I wrote AND instead of AN in my hasty reply.
>>
>> This sort of thing is a big enough black eye as it is.
>>
>> Where the members from this county at the National Convention?
>>
>> My suggestion is that in the future they should show up at convention and
>> make sure their voice is heard if they were not.  Also, show up at their
>> state conventions and make sure they have state leadership that is involved.
>>
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> The motion to suspend by and email vote would be out of order.  See the
>> LP bylaws Article 14.5:
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>
>>    A candidate's nomination may be suspended by a 3/4 vote of the entire
>>    membership of the National Committee at a meeting. That candidate's
>>    nomination shall then be declared null and void unless the suspended
>>    candidate appeals the suspension to the Judicial Committee within seven
>>    days of receipt of notification of suspension. The resolution of suspension
>>    must state the specific reasons for suspension and must be signed by each
>>    member of the National Committee agreeing thereto. The Judicial Committee
>>    shall meet and act on this appeal within 30 days and before the election.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    The
>>
>>
>>
>> The motion to suspend must come in a meeting.   That could be a
>> teleconference,video conference or physical meeting.  Email does not
>> suffice as a meeting.  As it would be a special meeting the purpose of the
>> meeting would have to be in the call of the meeting.  The call for the
>> Sept. 25th meeting did not include this purpose so that could not be
>> brought up then.
>>
>> What would need to be done would be get 5 other sponsors for the meeting
>> for the purpose to suspend Johnson and Weld.  I also think that it would
>> need to be a divided question.  The nominees were elected at convention
>> separately and the matter to suspend should be voted on separately.
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:15 AM, Patrick McKnight <
>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On behalf of the request of members of my region I make a motion to
>> suspend the Nomination of Johnson and Weld. The message I received is below.
>>
>> "On September 13th at the regular business meeting of the LP Seacoast, a
>> motion was made and passed to contact you regarding the presidential
>> ballot
>> of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. The motion asked that you make a motion to
>> the LNC to suspend the nomination of both Gary Johnson and Bill Weld as
>> they do not uphold the principles of the Libertarian Party as both have
>> openly made statements in support of the use of force. Both candidates
>> actively avoid using the word libertarian and have demonstrated time and
>> time again an inability to even grasp what it means to be libertarian. Per
>> Article 14, Section 5 of the LP bylaws, a candidate’s nomination may be
>> suspended by a 3/4 vote of the entire membership of the National Committee
>> at a meeting. We understand that this motion has a low probability of
>> success, but we’re asking you to show that there are some in the
>> Libertarian Party who still hold principle above party. Do you have the
>> principle to stand with those who voice opposition to those without
>> principles? Will you put forth an effort on behalf of principled
>> libertarians or will you willingly step back, swallow your principle and
>> pump the party line? Is this still the "Party of Principle?" Members of
>> your region are speaking out and the ball is in your court. We will
>> patiently await your response.
>>
>> Brian McQuade
>> Chair, Libertarian Party of the Seacoast New Hampshire"
>>
>> Would anyone like to co-sponsor this motion?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick McKnight
>> Region 8 Rep
>>
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