[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract Authority

Fri Sep 30 21:40:53 EDT 2016

I vote NO.

On Sep 30, 2016 8:33 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> In light of the recent announcement by Chair Sarwark, I change my vote to
> no.
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I vote No
>>
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large member
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 08:17 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Because I thoughtlessly put my vote at the bottom, I will repeat it.  I
>> vote no.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We gave the chair binding authority to negotiate and execute a
>>> contract.  Negotiation, naturally, is just that.  You don't get everything
>>> you want because both sides of a negotiation want to get things.  Asking
>>> someone to negotiate for you is asking them to navigate those trade-offs
>>> for you, to make these decisions.  I don't think we should have done that.
>>> When we were waiting for a contract, I would have supported a rescission -
>>> not because I thought the chair was doing a bad job or I was worried about
>>> the terms, but because the long wait suggested to me that there was a
>>> stalemate, and sometimes you can break a stalemate by putting in a new
>>> person.
>>>
>>> That isn't what we're talking about here, though.  Instead, after giving
>>> this task to the chair, this is an effort to turn around when the task is
>>> done and criticize the priorities chosen and decisions made and say "you
>>> could have gotten a better deal without giving anything up."  How do we
>>> know that?  We don't, but we'd be banking on it, because if not, we're not
>>> going to get a new deal anytime soon.
>>>
>>> I find it very aggravating that we pushed this task onto the chair, and
>>> now want to say "you should have done it differently."  I also see no plan
>>> for what will come next here.  Do we select a new negotiator?  What if the
>>> LNC doesn't like what they come back with, either?  Surely no one expects
>>> this entire body to negotiate a contract, which is not too many cook
>>> spoiling the broth - it's 20 cooks trying to flip a pancake.
>>>
>>> I vote no.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or just have a contract without the secrecy provision. I don't think
>>>> the campaign is going to want to spend these four or five weeks resisting
>>>> having a signed contract because they demand secrecy on a document which,
>>>> if it isn't signed, they would have no guarantee would not be publicly
>>>> released anyway. Especially because we've seen no evidence that they
>>>> *are* demanding secrecy. It seems quite possible there was just some
>>>> legal boilerplate text put in or something.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I guess I am saying pass it so that we can see what's in it!    :-(
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>                                ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>                             (415) 625-FREE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:15 AM, Aaron Starr wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I vote No.
>>>>
>>>> If this motion were to be adopted, we will have no contract at all. The
>>>> campaign is not going to spend the last four or five weeks of this election
>>>> cycle trying to negotiate a contract with seventeen people.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Starr
>>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 11:20 PM
>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract
>>>> Authority
>>>>
>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 3, 2016 at
>>>> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.*
>>>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Hayes, Starchild, Demarest
>>>>
>>>> *Motion:*  to rescind the authority granted to the Chair to negotiate
>>>> and execute a campaign contract and the Joint Fundraising Agreement and
>>>> rescind any signatures already executed.
>>>> -Alicia
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> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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