[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract Authority

Sat Oct 1 08:56:16 EDT 2016

I change my vote to NO.

Thanks to this painful but necessary discussion, the critical issue of transparency is now front and center. As we celebrate our acceleration toward major party status, we must also accelerate our efforts to institutionalize our policies on transparency and keep those policies on the front burner if the Libertarian Party is to remain relevant and philosophically consistent with the principles of Freedom that we have fought so hard for.

Libertarianism - Principle and Transparancy Before Party 

~David Pratt Demarest

Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee

Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)

Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus

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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Whitney Bilyeu
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 8:41 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract Authority

I vote NO.

On Sep 30, 2016 8:33 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com> > wrote:

In light of the recent announcement by Chair Sarwark, I change my vote to no.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com <mailto:danielehayes at icloud.com> > wrote:

I vote No

Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large member

On Sep 25, 2016, at 08:17 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com> > wrote:

Because I thoughtlessly put my vote at the bottom, I will repeat it.  I vote no.

Joshua A. Katz

Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com> > wrote:

We gave the chair binding authority to negotiate and execute a contract.  Negotiation, naturally, is just that.  You don't get everything you want because both sides of a negotiation want to get things.  Asking someone to negotiate for you is asking them to navigate those trade-offs for you, to make these decisions.  I don't think we should have done that.  When we were waiting for a contract, I would have supported a rescission - not because I thought the chair was doing a bad job or I was worried about the terms, but because the long wait suggested to me that there was a stalemate, and sometimes you can break a stalemate by putting in a new person.

That isn't what we're talking about here, though.  Instead, after giving this task to the chair, this is an effort to turn around when the task is done and criticize the priorities chosen and decisions made and say "you could have gotten a better deal without giving anything up."  How do we know that?  We don't, but we'd be banking on it, because if not, we're not going to get a new deal anytime soon.  

I find it very aggravating that we pushed this task onto the chair, and now want to say "you should have done it differently."  I also see no plan for what will come next here.  Do we select a new negotiator?  What if the LNC doesn't like what they come back with, either?  Surely no one expects this entire body to negotiate a contract, which is not too many cook spoiling the broth - it's 20 cooks trying to flip a pancake.  

I vote no.

Joshua A. Katz

Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer at earthlink.net> > wrote:

Or just have a contract without the secrecy provision. I don't think the campaign is going to want to spend these four or five weeks resisting having a signed contract because they demand secrecy on a document which, if it isn't signed, they would have no guarantee would not be publicly released anyway. Especially because we've seen no evidence that they are demanding secrecy. It seems quite possible there was just some legal boilerplate text put in or something.

Yes, I guess I am saying pass it so that we can see what's in it!    :-(

Love & Liberty,

                               ((( starchild )))

At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee

                            (415) 625-FREE

On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:15 AM, Aaron Starr wrote:

I vote No.

If this motion were to be adopted, we will have no contract at all. The campaign is not going to spend the last four or five weeks of this election cycle trying to negotiate a contract with seventeen people.

Aaron Starr

(805) 583-3308 Home

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starrcpa at gmail.com <mailto:starrcpa at gmail.com> 

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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:20 PM
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Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract Authority

We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 3, 2016 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Hayes, Starchild, Demarest

Motion:  to rescind the authority granted to the Chair to negotiate and execute a campaign contract and the Joint Fundraising Agreement and rescind any signatures already executed.

-Alicia

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In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> 

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