[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-15: Censure John Moore
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Oct 22 18:25:05 EDT 2016
Whitney I understand.
But you say you think a request for restitution is appropriate.
And that is what is done in this resolution.
On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Alicia,
>
> And that is an absolutely disjunctive comparison.
>
> Thank you for stating that it is not anything that I have done here.
>
> I will respond in another thread as stated. This isn't the first time
> member input has been discouraged and made unwelcome - thus important
> enough to pursue in its own thread.
>
> I will post a link to the Google groups topic for future readers as it
> will in one sense touch upon here - the false equivalency.
>
> On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','agmattson at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Caryn Ann,
>>
>> I have not alleged that the email campaign tactic has been used on THIS
>> motion. Mike Shipley is the only person outside the LNC who has contacted
>> me on this issue, and my comments about that tactic were made before I
>> received his email.
>>
>> I am comparing a tactic that has been used to try to influence the LNC on
>> other topics with what we're being told by others was allegedly Assemblyman
>> Moore's motivation.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alicia, thank you for your thorough reply. Though one point touched upon
>>> this Moore situation, in all I think it a tangent we both went on, so I
>>> will respond in a fresh thread so as not to distract here.
>>>
>>> But I need to get something really clear here as it has been alleged two
>>> times, and it is not correct. *I categorically did not have any email
>>> campaign to have anyone write anyone about this motion, * so I would
>>> appreciate it if that was not said. A member wrote me prior to my motion,
>>> and I advised him to contact his regional representative as he was not in
>>> my region. After that, region 1 members indicated their desire, and I
>>> heard from a Nevada board member. All I did on this, is what I do on *every
>>> single item of business before the LNC*, I post a notice in several
>>> groups with a link to the discussion. My encouragements for members to
>>> write *are general and ongoing and not tied to any specific matter of
>>> business* with few exceptions - those being the Motion to Rescind as
>>> their rights were being violated.
>>>
>>> I have been at outreach and sign waving all day. I will respond to your
>>> email later tonight in a new thread when I am refreshed.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whitney, it was a request, specially worded so in the resolution, not a
>>>> demand.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it's an interesting question as to whether or not the motion
>>>>> as presented is divisible, and I'm unclear as to the proposed division.
>>>>> Regardless, the bigger issue is that it is basically impossible to handle
>>>>> division of the question by email ballot, leading me to believe it is out
>>>>> of order on an email ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alicia,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it appropriate/allowable to move to divide this motion?
>>>>>> 1) Censure
>>>>>> 2) Call for refund/reimbursement/restitution
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the rest of the language in the last two paragraphs, I could
>>>>>> do without it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I vote yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A libertarian elected official's duty is to cut government. That's
>>>>>>> it. Not to support the tyranny of a misled majority.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Arvin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sean - hats off to you. <slow clap>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree completely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I intend to vote on this matter, however I do not intend to do so
>>>>>>>>> until we've heard from Assemblyman Moore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brett C. Bittner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Region 3 Representative
>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brett.bittner at lp.org
>>>>>>>>> 317.643.2566
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2016 08:44, "Sam Goldstein" <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I vote Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This would have been one of the best opportunities to vote on
>>>>>>>>>> principle and to make
>>>>>>>>>> a major impact on big government that the LP has had in our
>>>>>>>>>> history and Mr. Moore
>>>>>>>>>> failed miserably.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Patrick McKnight <
>>>>>>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I vote yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>>>>>> Region 8 Rep
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2016 8:14 AM, "David Demarest" <
>>>>>>>>>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Alicia. I agree that the death penalty deserves a
>>>>>>>>>>>> separate email thread of its own. I also was not aware of the numbers on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the death penalty plank vote. Nevertheless, I would consider 364 to 105
>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming but disappointingly not high enough considering the moral
>>>>>>>>>>>> implications as spelled in the full text of my testimony as follows, which,
>>>>>>>>>>>> by the way, turned out to be an extraordinary opportunity to publicize the
>>>>>>>>>>>> LP in Nebraska:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “Mr. Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Pratt Demarest, 10812 Park Meadow Plaza #133, Omaha, NE
>>>>>>>>>>>> 68142
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am Secretary of the Libertarian Party of Nebraska and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regional Representative on the Libertarian National Committee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here today as a private Nebraska citizen to support the
>>>>>>>>>>>> retention of LB268 that repealed the Nebraska death penalty as confirmed by
>>>>>>>>>>>> the override of the Governor’s veto. However, I can tell you that Libertarians
>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly support the repeal of the death penalty not only for
>>>>>>>>>>>> practical reasons but more importantly for moral reasons. I am personally
>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of *NO* Libertarians in Nebraska or across the nation
>>>>>>>>>>>> that support the death penalty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Much evidence has been presented today demonstrates the
>>>>>>>>>>>> indisputable failure of the death penalty as a deterrent compounded by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> financial burden it imposes on taxpayers and the extended pain and
>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering it visits on victims. To add insult to injury, victims lose twice
>>>>>>>>>>>> and end up revisiting the pain, anguish and suffering with no closure
>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the undue focus on deterrence, punishment and vengeance on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrators instead of seeking restitution for the victims. The immoral
>>>>>>>>>>>> use of the death penalty to obtain false confessions was dramatically
>>>>>>>>>>>> illustrated by the infamous Nebraska Beatrice 6 case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here, however, to speak to the overriding moral issue. In
>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to the barbaric nature of state-sponsored killing, the risk of
>>>>>>>>>>>> predictable executions of some innocents is beyond morally unacceptable, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is unconscionable! Further, the possibility of the death penalty being used
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a *political football* to obtain reelection votes raises a
>>>>>>>>>>>> host of ethical questions. To those who might be tempted to
>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate the death penalty for political purposes, you need to reexamine
>>>>>>>>>>>> your conscience and your political, personal and moral priorities
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To voters in the audience, I urge you vote your conscience,
>>>>>>>>>>>> vote to “Retain” LB268 and vote to uphold the death penalty ban in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nebraska. It is not just practical. It is the only moral choice!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been selected for poll worker duty. I have to vote early
>>>>>>>>>>>> and have already voted. I am proud to tell you that I voted to retain LB268
>>>>>>>>>>>> to ban the death penalty from Nebraska. I hope you will too!”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:15 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-15: Censure
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Moore
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> DD>> In the introduction to my testimony, I mentioned my
>>>>>>>>>>>> positions with the LNC and the LPNE and I said that while I was there to
>>>>>>>>>>>> testify as a private citizen, Libertarians are overwhelmingly against the
>>>>>>>>>>>> death penalty and that I was personally aware of no Libertarians in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nebraska or across the nation that support the death penalty. <<DD
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to change the subject or start a debate on the death
>>>>>>>>>>>> penalty...just addressing a factual detail that came up in the example
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation. At the national convention there was a counted vote on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> adoption of our death penalty plank, and there were 364 in favor and 105
>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:44 AM, David Demarest <
>>>>>>>>>>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will delay my vote until we hear from John Moore. It may be
>>>>>>>>>>>> that merely offering the motion to censure will achieve our intended
>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose to express our outrage. In the meantime, however, we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> consider Ken’s salient point about taking into account an elected
>>>>>>>>>>>> official’s duty to represent the views of his constituents and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> articulate responses by Caryn and Alicia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I must say I am bothered by the reference to the 60% of
>>>>>>>>>>>> constituents favoring the position that Assemblyman Moore voted for as
>>>>>>>>>>>> justification for his misguided votes. As Caryn has correctly pointed out,
>>>>>>>>>>>> we have a duty to reflect the principles of our party. More importantly, we
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a duty to reflect our personal principles of conscience that hopefully
>>>>>>>>>>>> are reasonably consistent with our party’s principles. Even allowing for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact that no two Libertarians are going to agree on all details of all
>>>>>>>>>>>> principles, Assemblyman Moore’s votes go beyond the pale. Here is a recent
>>>>>>>>>>>> example from my personal experience on the cronyism evils of basing
>>>>>>>>>>>> political positions and votes on the consensus of constituents regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>> of any considerations of principles and morals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week I testified against the Nebraska referendum to
>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstate the death penalty at a legally mandated District 2 hearing. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unicameral, with the support of Libertarian Senator Laura Ebke, narrowly
>>>>>>>>>>>> overrode Governor Ricketts’ veto of the bill that repealed the death
>>>>>>>>>>>> penalty. Governor Ricketts then used a “substantial” contribution from his
>>>>>>>>>>>> personal fortune to sponsor the ballot referendum to reinstate the death
>>>>>>>>>>>> penalty that was the subject of the hearing. In the introduction to my
>>>>>>>>>>>> testimony, I mentioned my positions with the LNC and the LPNE and I said
>>>>>>>>>>>> that while I was there to testify as a private citizen, Libertarians are
>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly against the death penalty and that I was personally aware of
>>>>>>>>>>>> no Libertarians in Nebraska or across the nation that support the death
>>>>>>>>>>>> penalty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican State Senator Merv Riepe, a Ralston High School
>>>>>>>>>>>> classmate of mine, testified that his opinion poll showed that his
>>>>>>>>>>>> constituents favored the reinstatement of the death penalty *three
>>>>>>>>>>>> to one* with the clear inference that he intended to reflect
>>>>>>>>>>>> his constituents’ views [regardless of any moral considerations]. I looked
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Riepe squarely in the eye and responded with the following
>>>>>>>>>>>> passionate testimony:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “… the possibility of the death penalty being used as a *political
>>>>>>>>>>>> football* to obtain reelection votes raises a host of ethical
>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. To those who might be tempted to advocate the death
>>>>>>>>>>>> penalty for political purposes, you need to reexamine your
>>>>>>>>>>>> conscience and your political, personal and moral priorities.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is that reflecting the “consensus of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> constituents” for obvious reelection purposes is not an acceptable or moral
>>>>>>>>>>>> justification for Assemblyman Moore’s two egregious votes. Let’s see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moore has to say but keep in mind that our duty is not only to our party’s
>>>>>>>>>>>> principles but also to our personal principles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-15: Censure
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Moore
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am as upset as the rest of you about the two votes in
>>>>>>>>>>>> question, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to vote yes on this
>>>>>>>>>>>> motion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly on the stadium vote, Assemblyman Moore held the
>>>>>>>>>>>> power of the deciding vote. Had he voted no, it would have failed instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> of passing. We had a Libertarian in a position to make a big real-world
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference, and it didn't happen. Facepalm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IF it's true that his motivation was to play to his
>>>>>>>>>>>> constituency in hopes of getting re-elected, I wonder how he will feel
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the votes in hindsight in the event that he is not re-elected.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the point of being there if you can't vote your conscience? That's
>>>>>>>>>>>> why on the LNC I also vote the way I think I ought to vote even if other
>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC members stage organized email campaigns from their friends. Should we
>>>>>>>>>>>> be offended at a public official playing to his constituents if we do the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing as party officials?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have several issues with this motion. I particularly
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate Mr. Moellman's questions, and I think we probably should have
>>>>>>>>>>>> had a conversation with Mr. Moore before we flung a motion into the wind.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's sufficient to just hear how other people represent his
>>>>>>>>>>>> position to us. We should get it straight from him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not thrilled about the wording in this resolution.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "...convey a strong message to all and sundry..." ? Who talks like that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> We're discouraging others from switching to the LP until they completely
>>>>>>>>>>>> agree with us? With which of us? Because we don't all agree, either. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably would have added that his vote was effectively the deciding vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Censure is an action taken by a group against a member of that
>>>>>>>>>>>> same group. Mr. Moore is not a member of the LNC. Have we even confirmed
>>>>>>>>>>>> that he's a member of the national party? As of the national convention in
>>>>>>>>>>>> May, our records did not yet indicate he had signed our membership
>>>>>>>>>>>> certification. We know he switched his party registration in NV, but that
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make him a member of the national party. We wouldn't censure
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton because they're not members of the LNC or
>>>>>>>>>>>> even the LP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The state affiliate that nominated him has already censured
>>>>>>>>>>>> him, so what does this accomplish for the LNC to pile on? We can't make
>>>>>>>>>>>> him return the money. Is it just to make ourselves feel better? Is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC going to become the purity police that monitors every
>>>>>>>>>>>> local/state/federal elected official and passes resolutions about them? I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am concerned about starting such a trend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we hadn't already donated the funds, I'd vote to rescind
>>>>>>>>>>>> that decision. That ship has sailed. I wouldn't vote to donate to him
>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I'm not certain that this motion accomplishes anything productive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Alicia Mattson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Demarest, Hayes, Vohra, Starchild,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldstein, Redpath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Motion:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas Nevada Assemblyman John Moore, a former Republican who
>>>>>>>>>>>> in January 2016 switched to the Libertarian Party while in office, has
>>>>>>>>>>>> during the past month voted not once but twice in the span of as many days
>>>>>>>>>>>> to raise taxes on his constituents, including a vote to support a "More
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cops" tax which the Libertarian Party of Nevada has tirelessly and thus far
>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully opposed, and a vote to provide a $750 million subsidy to
>>>>>>>>>>>> finance a billionaire-owned sports stadium at the expense of, among others,
>>>>>>>>>>>> indigent persons renting weekly rooms in motels; and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas the elected leaders of our state affiliate party in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevada have rightfully voted to censure Assemblyman Moore for these
>>>>>>>>>>>> egregious votes; and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas we wish to convey a strong message to all and sundry
>>>>>>>>>>>> that while we welcome sitting legislators in the Republican or Democrat
>>>>>>>>>>>> parties who decide to switch to the Libertarian Party as an act of
>>>>>>>>>>>> conscience, we do not welcome them if they intend, as members of our party,
>>>>>>>>>>>> to continue voting and acting like Republicans or Democrats;
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore be it resolved that the Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee hereby censures Assemblyman Moore for his recent votes in support
>>>>>>>>>>>> of tax increases, requests that he return the $10,000 campaign contribution
>>>>>>>>>>>> which the LNC this season voted to send him, and admonishes him to
>>>>>>>>>>>> henceforward be a better champion of the values held by members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> political party with which he has chosen to affiliate if he intends to
>>>>>>>>>>>> remain a Libertarian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.VoteVohra.com
>>>>>>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>>>>>>> (301) 320-3634
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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