[Lnc-business] LP.org website transition - missing pages (83% data loss)

Tue Nov 15 13:56:42 EST 2016

No word yet on this missing data I suppose?

I was directed to a link I needed for research and..... a 404

https://www.lp.org/archives/lnc20040814.pdf

This is not acceptable.

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Moulton supplemented:
>
> LNC members,
>
> I want to follow up on this point.  I was just looking at 404 errors
> before.  In fact, the problem is much, much, much, much worse.
>
> The candidate listings that do exist (are not 404 errors, were properly
> redirected) are mostly just stubs that include only their names.
>
> These are our statewide candidates in Pennsylvania:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/edward-clifford/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/james-babb/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/roy-minet/
>
> It might be hard to tell they are our statewide candidates because their
> listings include only the following information:
> * LP logo
> * Name
>
> Their listings DO NOT INCLUDE any of the following information:
> * State
> * Office/district
> * Picture
> * Biography
> * Website link
> * Facebook
> * Twitter
> * Contact info
>
> If you think this problem is limited to states with less political
> connections, you are wrong.
>
> Here are a few listings from people running very active campaigns:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/aaron-starr/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/arvin-vohra/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/lily-tang-williams/
>
> (Disclosure note: I donated to Aaron Starr's campaign.)
>
> Here are a few other candidates you may recognize:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/norm-olsen/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/roland-riemers/ (404 error)
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/patrick-mcknight/
>
> Here is one of the few candidate pages with actual information:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/mark-miller/
>
> Note that even that trails off at the end... "As an experienced PhD
> petroleum engineer and former UT petroleum engineering faculty member, he
> will undoubtedly be the most qualified candidate on the November 201".
> Also the Facebook and Twitter links are broken.  And it doesn't mention
> what office he is seeking.  Nice that the LNC donated thousands of dollars
> to his campaign... too bad no one bothered to spend 5 minutes fixing the
> errors in his candidate listing.
>
> Of course, his old page does not redirect:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/mark-a-miller/
>
> John Moore is a 404 page:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/john-moore/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/john-moore/
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/john-moore/
>
> As is Laura Ebke:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/laura-ebke/
>
> TODAY IS ELECTION DAY.  What a wasted opportunity!!!
>
> Maybe if we hadn't shut down our working website 2 weeks before the
> election and replaced it with a buggy new website with 83% data loss and
> long load times (using a lot of precious staff time at their busiest
> period), we could have listed and promoted some of our candidates.
>
> Please, please, PLEASE exercise some actual oversight as a board and do
> something about the critical and embarrassing error torpedoing one of our
> greatest assets (on the eve of the election): our national lp.org website.
>
> I've received feedback asking me if I was being over the top or facetious
> suggesting someone should be FIRED or REMOVED FROM THE LNC over this.  I
> was not.  I am completely serious.  What was done to the website goes
> beyond a harmless error.  It goes beyond reckless.  It was NEGLIGENT.
> Someone should be held accountable for all the damage that has been done to
> the Libertarian Party -- an organization we all have poured time and money
> into for decades hoping to see it succeed.
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
>
> Chuck Moulton
> Life Member & Monthly Pledger, Libertarian Party
>
> P.S. I voted proudly for Gary Johnson and the other Libertarians on the
> Pennsylvania ballot today.
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> For the public's information.  A ton of ideological links are, in fact,
>> broken.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chuck Moulton <chuck at moulton.org>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: LP.org website transition - missing pages (83% data loss)
>>
>>
>> Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>>
>>> What would be useful right now would be if you could point out the
>>> broken links so that we can assign permanent redirects to them.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> So anyway, if you'd like to submit broken links, we'd love to set up
>>> additional forwards.
>>>
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Glad to help!
>>
>> Obviously, it is much easier for you to see what redirects need to be
>> made, as you have access to the old website, the new website, and the 404
>> logs.  However, you seem to be having trouble with this, so I'll provide
>> you with the information you need.
>>
>> It would be very difficult to compile a list of all incoming links to
>> lp.org without access to the server logs.  Therefore, I used Google's
>> search results, which is a reasonable proxy for outside links.  I searched
>> for "site:lp.org", then I did followup searches for all directories I
>> found with "site:lp.org inurl:lp.org/blog" (for example) because Google
>> does not list all the results it has indexed without narrow searches.  This
>> netted 2,531 unique URLs indexed by Google.  I wrote a program in Python to
>> scrape that information.
>>
>> Next, Stewart Flood wrote a Perl program to check every URL on my list
>> and find out whether it threw a 404 error.  (He also checked for load times
>> and other information, which we will highlight in a subsequent report.)
>> Sorry this took so long... Stewart was busy watching the World Series.  We
>> re-ran the script several times this week to see if staff added any
>> redirects... they only added one page: /contribute.  The program can be
>> re-run at any time to track what's been added.  Not all of the missing URLs
>> should necessarily be carried forward, but a lot of historical information
>> is no longer present.
>>
>> Our results are included in the attachments.  (Note: In the summary page,
>> these are groupings by directory, not the actual URLs.)
>>
>> Basically, 83% of the webpages indexed by Google have not been carried
>> over or properly redirected.
>>
>>
>> In liberty,
>>
>> Chuck Moulton
>> Life Member & Monthly Pledger, Libertarian Party
>> 2006-2008 IT Committee Chair
>>
>> Stewart Flood
>> Life Member & Monthly Pledger, Libertarian Party
>> 2008-2012 IT Committee Chair
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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