[Lnc-business] Draft Budget

Tue Nov 29 11:36:29 EST 2016

I think my colleague raises an important point, not just here, but for many
things we do.  We routinely are cautious about things we don't need to be,
in my opinion, but not so cautious about things that should be sensitive.
We've handled items that could reasonably be considered sensitive personnel
matters in open session - largely because, of course, the Policy Manual
prohibits us from conducting business in executive session.  On the other
hand, we're careful about public information, such as salary.

That said, in this instance, I would not want to take on the task of
threading the needle between pay (publicly available) and contract
provisions (sensitive and private).

Finally, I'd observe that my question, about the interaction between items
in the Policy Manual and the budget process, are entirely non-specific and
do not touch on any sensitive personnel matters.

Joshua A. Katz

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> As a political party don't we have to publicly disclose all our
> expenditures and where they went? Doesn't that include wages, compensation,
> contract payments etc? IF all that is publicly available in FEC filings why
> do we  do this dance around what we pay our people?
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yet the number is publicly here.
>
> I wasn't asking for specifics but a general answer;
>
> New hires?
> Raises and bonuses?
> Increased regulation and taxes?
>
> A very general publicly disclosable answer if possible.  Not anything
> confidential (though I am of the school that this should not be
> confidential - I accept for the time that it is)
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Employee compensation is confidential and should not be discussed on an
>> open list.  There
>> will be a separate and confidential addendum to the budget  that we will
>> discuss in an
>> executive session that should answer your questions.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Member at Large
>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay the no 2014 thing makes sense.  That question answered, the rest to
>>> go :)
>>>
>>> I have the same questions as Joshua as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why are 2013 and 2015 given as baselines to compare, but not 2014?
>>>>
>>>> Off-year budgets are more similar to other off-years.  Also, no
>>>> convention.
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > This is my first time with the yearly budget, so I apologize if I
>>>> have dumb
>>>> > questions, and also if these are better to just ask at the meeting
>>>> let me
>>>> > know, but I do have some basic questions about the first page for now:
>>>> >
>>>> > Why are 2013 and 2015 given as baselines to compare, but not 2014?
>>>> > What is the basis for thinking recurring gifts will be higher in
>>>> 2017? (line
>>>> > 22)
>>>> > What is project program revenue? (line 25)
>>>> > I see building fundraising costs for 2015 of $15,304.00 (line 37)-
>>>> anyone
>>>> > know how much we raised from those efforts? (and I note we have a $0
>>>> for
>>>> > that this year even though our PM says this is a priority)
>>>> > What is causing the big jump in compensation?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona,
>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>> > Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The draft budget to be considered at next month's meeting is
>>>> attached.
>>>> >> Some notes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The Operating Budget worksheet, column F (highlighted in blue) is the
>>>> >> budget to be considered. Its numbers are derived from the
>>>> yellow-highlighted
>>>> >> column in the Acct Detail worksheet. The footnotes at the bottom of
>>>> the Acct
>>>> >> Detail worksheet explain how we came up with the 2017 numbers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Many of the numbers are based on the 2013 and 2015 numbers. We are
>>>> >> predicting that membership will be 19,583 in January, dropping to
>>>> 15,000 at
>>>> >> the end of next year. This gives an average throughout the year of
>>>> 17,292,
>>>> >> which is 28% higher than the average of 2013 and 2015 membership.
>>>> Some
>>>> >> revenues and expenses are increased 28% to account for this increased
>>>> >> membership.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Because of our accounting method, the value of the office shows up
>>>> as a
>>>> >> fixed asset with the mortgage as a long-term liability, and paying
>>>> down the
>>>> >> mortgage's principal is a transfer from checking to the mortgage.
>>>> Likewise,
>>>> >> the bequest held in a trust is also an asset, which gets transferred
>>>> to Cash
>>>> >> in the books when we receive a check. Rows 46 and 47 on the
>>>> Operating Budget
>>>> >> worksheet show these transfers so the spreadsheet can show the
>>>> surplus or
>>>> >> deficit of the cash. For the cash flow, the draft budget has a net
>>>> deficit
>>>> >> of $154,900.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tim Hagan
>>>> >>
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona,
>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>> > Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
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