[Lnc-business] Salary/Contract Transparency
Starchild
sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 29 20:03:07 EST 2016
I think Dan's questions are spot-on. Does anyone have a hypothetical but realistic example of a contract provision with someone hired to be a Libertarian Party staffer that needs to be kept secret from our party's members?
If you come up with one, please explain why you think it would do more harm than good for that information to be made public. I cannot think of any.
Imagine in your personal life, if you were somehow barred from talking with your friends about how much you paid for things. You would miss out on all the benefits of conversations like, "You paid $300 at MegaBigHardware for that lawnmower? I got a similar one for $150 at NewDisruptiveHardware, and it comes with a more complete warranty."
Love & Liberty,
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On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> I think my colleague raises an important point, not just here, but for many things we do. We routinely are cautious about things we don't need to be, in my opinion, but not so cautious about things that should be sensitive. We've handled items that could reasonably be considered sensitive personnel matters in open session - largely because, of course, the Policy Manual prohibits us from conducting business in executive session. On the other hand, we're careful about public information, such as salary.
>
> That said, in this instance, I would not want to take on the task of threading the needle between pay (publicly available) and contract provisions (sensitive and private).
>
> Finally, I'd observe that my question, about the interaction between items in the Policy Manual and the budget process, are entirely non-specific and do not touch on any sensitive personnel matters.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
> As a political party don't we have to publicly disclose all our expenditures and where they went? Doesn't that include wages, compensation, contract payments etc? IF all that is publicly available in FEC filings why do we do this dance around what we pay our people?
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yet the number is publicly here.
>>
>> I wasn't asking for specifics but a general answer;
>>
>> New hires?
>> Raises and bonuses?
>> Increased regulation and taxes?
>>
>> A very general publicly disclosable answer if possible. Not anything confidential (though I am of the school that this should not be confidential - I accept for the time that it is)
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Employee compensation is confidential and should not be discussed on an open list. There
>> will be a separate and confidential addendum to the budget that we will discuss in an
>> executive session that should answer your questions.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Member at Large
>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Okay the no 2014 thing makes sense. That question answered, the rest to go :)
>>
>> I have the same questions as Joshua as well.
>>
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>> Why are 2013 and 2015 given as baselines to compare, but not 2014?
>>
>> Off-year budgets are more similar to other off-years. Also, no convention.
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > This is my first time with the yearly budget, so I apologize if I have dumb
>> > questions, and also if these are better to just ask at the meeting let me
>> > know, but I do have some basic questions about the first page for now:
>> >
>> > Why are 2013 and 2015 given as baselines to compare, but not 2014?
>> > What is the basis for thinking recurring gifts will be higher in 2017? (line
>> > 22)
>> > What is project program revenue? (line 25)
>> > I see building fundraising costs for 2015 of $15,304.00 (line 37)- anyone
>> > know how much we raised from those efforts? (and I note we have a $0 for
>> > that this year even though our PM says this is a priority)
>> > What is causing the big jump in compensation?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The draft budget to be considered at next month's meeting is attached.
>> >> Some notes:
>> >>
>> >> The Operating Budget worksheet, column F (highlighted in blue) is the
>> >> budget to be considered. Its numbers are derived from the yellow-highlighted
>> >> column in the Acct Detail worksheet. The footnotes at the bottom of the Acct
>> >> Detail worksheet explain how we came up with the 2017 numbers.
>> >>
>> >> Many of the numbers are based on the 2013 and 2015 numbers. We are
>> >> predicting that membership will be 19,583 in January, dropping to 15,000 at
>> >> the end of next year. This gives an average throughout the year of 17,292,
>> >> which is 28% higher than the average of 2013 and 2015 membership. Some
>> >> revenues and expenses are increased 28% to account for this increased
>> >> membership.
>> >>
>> >> Because of our accounting method, the value of the office shows up as a
>> >> fixed asset with the mortgage as a long-term liability, and paying down the
>> >> mortgage's principal is a transfer from checking to the mortgage. Likewise,
>> >> the bequest held in a trust is also an asset, which gets transferred to Cash
>> >> in the books when we receive a check. Rows 46 and 47 on the Operating Budget
>> >> worksheet show these transfers so the spreadsheet can show the surplus or
>> >> deficit of the cash. For the cash flow, the draft budget has a net deficit
>> >> of $154,900.
>> >>
>> >> Tim Hagan
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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