[Lnc-business] Empowered Future Committee update

Sun Dec 18 18:23:33 EST 2016

Exactly, Joshua had this item on the agenda, and I had full arguments
prepared in opposition.  To slip it in this way is very back door and I
HIGHLY OBJECT.

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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would re-iterate all of my prior concerns on number of members and lack
> of party experience.  This is not what was presented, and I do not believe
> it is proper to get one thing passed and have it slip into another.  If
> there is to be a "messaging" committee, ANY LNC member who wishes to be on
> it, should be on it.   But that is not what was presented.  No discussions
> on qualifications for any such thing were discussed etc. This is the LNC's
> job, and if THAT is the job of the Committee, I request a place.
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree with your point regarding discussion versus a motion.  Intent
>> versus action.
>>
>> I'd ask Mr. Somes to please clarify what he wants to do with this
>> committee.  We can then discuss what should/shouldn't be in there, and then
>> vote accordingly, if necessary, to clarify and solidify the scope.
>>
>> I personally think empowering a committee to come up with recommendations
>> regarding strategies and messaging would be good.  And after hearing those
>> recommendations, the LNC/APRC could adopt them, or not.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-12-18 18:05, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> The motion is as worded in the minutes but they were not empowered to
>> produce such a report as you described.  That is way beyond the scope and
>> all of my prior objections would be even more amplified.  Discussion is not
>> a motion.  What I posted above is what was passed, nothing more.
>>
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Do we have access to the video archive of the meeting?  Does anyone have
>>> that link handy?
>>>
>>> I had thought the purpose of the committee was, broadly, to find out how
>>> we could boost our image through the modification of wording and
>>> phraseology. As part of that, they would solicit bids from political image
>>> consultants to determine a cost of having them given their
>>> recommendations.  I remember that during discussion there was talk of not
>>> having to accept the bids, or only accepting portions of bids, and that
>>> some work could be possibly done internally.  The LNC would still have to
>>> approve any spending in that regard. And in my mind, I assumed that any
>>> recommendations, whether from paid or unpaid sources, would have to be run
>>> through APRC or the entire LNC prior to implementation.
>>>
>>> I think clarification regarding the scope of this committee would be a
>>> good idea. I am personally in favor of a committee that works to fine-tune
>>> our messaging; that makes suggestions on using words and phrases that
>>> soothe, rather than scare, the public. These would be recommendations
>>> presented to the APRC and/or the LNC, and not implemented officially until
>>> approve is given from one or both of those.
>>>
>>> I have no doubt that Messrs Demerest, Sharpe, Somes have the very best
>>> intentions in mind, and I just want to be sure that everyone agrees to the
>>> scope NOW so there are no hurt feelings later.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-12-18 17:43, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> I also do not know where this committee name came from. This was not
>>> approved by the LNC, the Committee Name approved by the LNC was "Committee
>>> to Review 2016 Campaign"
>>>
>>> And this is the Motion:
>>>
>>>
>>> On behalf of Trent Somes, Mr. Hagan moved that the Libertarian National
>>> Committee establish a committee to take bids from political consultants for
>>> the task of extensively reviewing and making recommendations for the
>>> Libertarian Party's messaging (and modes of messaging), inclusion in the
>>> debates, fundraising and campaign finance, campaign mechanics, and state
>>> and local affiliates. Said agency will agree to present their findings to
>>> the public before December of 2017. The committee will take bids until the
>>> 10th of January.
>>>
>>> And a subsequent Motion:  Ms. Mattson made a motion which, following
>>> amendment without objection, was to appoint the just-approved committee to
>>> be three people, comprised of Larry Sharpe, Trent Somes, and a third person
>>> of their choosing.
>>>
>>> *I must insist that we keep to what was actually voted on and approved.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good choice!  But here I am with an objection already- Ken said "Good
>>>> luck with that committee. I'm excited to have a formalized report on how to
>>>> improve our branding and image without abandoning our principles. "
>>>>
>>>> *That is not what this committee was created to do.  The committee was
>>>> created to obtain bids and obtain bids only. That is it.*
>>>>
>>>> I will continue to raise these objections about the LNC tendency to
>>>> slippage.  I ask everyone to refer back to the meeting minutes for
>>>> precisely the purpose of this committee.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Patrick McKnight <
>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>> Region 8 Representative
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 2016 5:28 PM, "Ken Moellman" <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with that committee. I'm excited to have a formalized
>>>>>> report on how to improve our branding and image without abandoning our
>>>>>> principles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-12-18 17:17, Trent Somes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After careful consideration, Larry Sharpe and I have chosen David
>>>>>> Demarest as the third member to our committee. He has graciously accepted
>>>>>> the position and we are excited to get rolling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will work hard to continue to keep the LNC updated on our progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trent Somes, III
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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